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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	bjorn.helgaas@hp.com, "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: pci-sysfs resource mmap broken (and PATCH)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:39:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1114670353.7182.246.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050427223702.21051afc.davem@davemloft.net>

On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 22:37 -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:33:11 -0600

> The 'offset' argument is defined to be page aligned
> when passed to mmap().

mmap API in general is defined to only ever deal with page aligned
parameters & return values no ?

> > If it's a token, the arch specific mmap() will know how to deal with it.
> > parisc does that with IO Port space(s) in the kernel.
> 
> Yes, if the token goes in as the offset parameter to mmap() then
> whatever ->mmap() code we write can call arch specific code to
> transform it as necessary.

Except from that page alignment thing ... which is the root of the
problem.

> It's been around for ages, and it used in the X server on PPC
> and Sparc.  It mostly allows handling of multi-domain stuff.
> Unfortunately, the $DOMAIN:xxx directory naming change we made
> in 2.6.x for /proc/pci stuff broke the X server at least on
> sparc64 :-/

In fact, I'm fairly sure X still uses /dev/mem on ppc :( Oh well...

> I hate to say this, but the largest consumer of this stuff is the
> X server, so we really need to force ourselves to work in parallel
> on clean X server support.

Cleaning X.org is my goal, this is why I'm trying to clean the kernel
side first :) I'm also working separately on the problem of VGA access
arbitration (We'll probably do a joint session with the desktop summit
an the kernel summit about those issue).

> Whether that's via some libpci.a
> abstraction or whatever, I personally don't care, but without the
> X support in some form all of this is API masterbation :-)

It is :) Userland driver stuff is a consumer too though.

> > If it's prefetchable, won't the reads/writes automatically be combined?
> > Since I equate "prefetchable" == "cacheable", I'd think anything
> > is fair game.
> 
> On many platforms some kind of "side effect" bit in the PTE
> determine if store buffer compression can happen in the processor.
> We'd want to not set such a bit for things like frame-buffers and
> the like.

Yes, and I think that pretty much match with PCI devices exposing a
"prefetchable" BAR, don't you agree ?

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-28  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-26  5:33 pci-sysfs resource mmap broken Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26  6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26  6:36   ` Greg KH
2005-04-26  9:24   ` Russell King
2005-04-26 16:30 ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-26 22:47   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-27  3:55     ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-27  4:30       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-27  4:28         ` David S. Miller
2005-04-27  4:39           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-27  4:46     ` pci-sysfs resource mmap broken (and PATCH) Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-27 23:13     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-28  5:33       ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-28  5:37         ` David S. Miller
2005-04-28  6:39           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-04-28  6:50             ` David S. Miller
2005-04-28  7:21               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-28  7:22                 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-28  7:46                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-28 15:11               ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-28 22:47                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-28 23:38                   ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-29 15:42                     ` David S. Miller
2005-04-29 22:16                       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-04-28  6:35         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-03  5:37           ` pci-sysfs resource mmap broken PATCH#2 Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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