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From: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
To: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Cc: mhw@wittsend.com, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash!
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1116007099.29258.22.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050513171758.GB23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

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On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 13:17 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 12:20:06PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> >	I'm also going to file a couple of bug reports in bugzilla at RedHat
> > but this seems to be a more fundamental problem than a RedHat specific
> > problem.  But, IMHO, they should never be setting that damn sync flag
> > arbitrarily.
> 
> No they certainly should not, but it may have something to do with
> making life easier for kde/gnome desktops and automatic mount/umount of
> media.  Dumb idea still, but that happens sometimes.

Err, no, the sync flag is a wonderful idea.  I use sync on jump drives
(although I won't now that I've read about this problem) because I can
copy a file to it and as soon as the green light stops flashing I can
yank it out without bothering to click or type anything to "eject" it.
Requiring "eject" on removable media is a dumb idea.

Perhaps FAT updates could be cached and delayed until some # of ms after
the last write.

Turning the sync flag off and adjusting the values
in /proc/sys/vm/dirty_* would have the same effect, but would change it
on all devices, not just removables.

Maybe we need a way to set dirty_* per block device?
-- 
Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-05-13 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 16:20 Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:17 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 17:53   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:09     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:21       ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:26         ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:52           ` Flash device types Mark Rustad
2005-05-13 18:53           ` Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:58   ` Zan Lynx [this message]
2005-05-13 18:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 19:10   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 22:00     ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 22:22       ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-13 23:24         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-13 23:01       ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-05-13 23:27         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-14 10:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-05-14  1:05   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-17 13:30     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 21:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-13 22:43   ` Alan Cox
2005-05-15 19:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-16  0:23   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-16  9:29     ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-16 16:42       ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-16 13:01     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-16 23:18   ` Helge Hafting
2005-05-18  7:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17  7:59 ` Colin Leroy
     [not found] <43Ldl-NM-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <43M9s-1B8-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <43MCx-1UF-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <43MVz-2hL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-13 23:59       ` Robert Hancock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-14  2:43 linux
2005-05-17 13:36 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-17 20:31   ` linux
2005-05-17 20:43     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-18 13:37     ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found] <43UT5-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-14  4:34 ` Robert Hancock
2005-05-18 11:13 linux
2005-05-18 12:01 ` Richard B. Johnson

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