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From: "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw@wittsend.com>
To: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhw@wittsend.com
Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash!
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:21:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1116008483.5239.79.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050513180915.GH23488@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

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On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 14:09 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 01:53:48PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > 	Yeah, I've heard that claimed but a real problem is that nobody can
> > tell which ones do or don't until you've got a crispy chip.  I've looked
> > and I haven't been able to find a single reference on any that you might
> > pick up at Best Buy or Fry's.  I've never seen one that has it written
> > on it that it has any sort of wear leveling like that.  But I guess we
> > don't all buy our flash drives at an industrial supply house (forget
> > Tiger Direct or CDW either - consumer grade).  I would bet that most
> > people don't even REALIZE that flash has a limited life and wears out.

> I believe any flash with a sandisk controller in it will do pretty good
> wear leveling (I think all the ones labeled sandisk have their
> controller, although they don't all have sandisk flash chips).  The
> controller is what does the wear leveling.  At least for CF and SD this
> is what they do.

	Funny you should mention SanDisk.  Maybe the newer ones have gotten
better but the CF cards I used in my PDA were mixes of the SanDisk 128
Meg and SimpleTech 128 Meg.  Burned up several before I realized it was
the nightly backup program that was eating them and I didn't notice any
difference between the brands.  I don't know what controller was in the
SimpleTech CF cards.  Any way to tell short of dismantling them?

	:

> Len Sorensen

	Mike
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-13 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 16:20 Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:17 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 17:53   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:09     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:21       ` Michael H. Warfield [this message]
2005-05-13 18:26         ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:52           ` Flash device types Mark Rustad
2005-05-13 18:53           ` Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:58   ` Zan Lynx
2005-05-13 18:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 19:10   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 22:00     ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 22:22       ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-13 23:24         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-13 23:01       ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-05-13 23:27         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-14 10:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-05-14  1:05   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-17 13:30     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 21:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-13 22:43   ` Alan Cox
2005-05-15 19:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-16  0:23   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-16  9:29     ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-16 16:42       ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-16 13:01     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-16 23:18   ` Helge Hafting
2005-05-18  7:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17  7:59 ` Colin Leroy
     [not found] <43Ldl-NM-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <43M9s-1B8-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <43MCx-1UF-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <43MVz-2hL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-13 23:59       ` Robert Hancock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-14  2:43 linux
2005-05-17 13:36 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-17 20:31   ` linux
2005-05-17 20:43     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-18 13:37     ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found] <43UT5-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-14  4:34 ` Robert Hancock
2005-05-18 11:13 linux
2005-05-18 12:01 ` Richard B. Johnson

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