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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: mhw@wittsend.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash!
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:25:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1116019500.6380.33.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1116001207.5239.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 12:20 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> 	Under the right circumstances, even copying a single file to a flash
> drive mounted with the "sync" option can destroy the entire drive!
> 
> 	Now that I have your attention!
> 
> 	I found this out the hard way.  (Kissed one brand new $70 USD 1GB flash
> drive good-bye.)  According to the man pages for mount, FAT and VFAT
> file systems ignore the "sync" option.  It lies.

I guess you found out the hard way that the vast majority of Linux docs
are 2-3 years out of date...

> On a real hard
> drive, this will cause "head resonances" as the heads go through
> constant high speed seeks between the cylinder with the FAT tables and
> the data cylinders.  That can't be good, on a continuous basis, for
> drive life.  But it's really a disaster for flash memory.

I have seen a clueless sysadmin destroy several 15,000 RPM SCSI drives
this way by putting the syslog partition and mail spool at opposite ends
of the drive.  I think Alan Cox said something like "these days you can
no longer assume that buggy software won't destroy your hardware".

Lee


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-05-13 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 16:20 Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:17 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 17:53   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:09     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:21       ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:26         ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:52           ` Flash device types Mark Rustad
2005-05-13 18:53           ` Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:58   ` Zan Lynx
2005-05-13 18:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 19:10   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 22:00     ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 22:22       ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-13 23:24         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-13 23:01       ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-05-13 23:27         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-14 10:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-05-14  1:05   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-17 13:30     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 21:25 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-05-13 22:43   ` Alan Cox
2005-05-15 19:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-16  0:23   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-16  9:29     ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-16 16:42       ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-16 13:01     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-16 23:18   ` Helge Hafting
2005-05-18  7:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17  7:59 ` Colin Leroy
     [not found] <43Ldl-NM-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <43M9s-1B8-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <43MCx-1UF-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <43MVz-2hL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-13 23:59       ` Robert Hancock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-14  2:43 linux
2005-05-17 13:36 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-17 20:31   ` linux
2005-05-17 20:43     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-18 13:37     ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found] <43UT5-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-14  4:34 ` Robert Hancock
2005-05-18 11:13 linux
2005-05-18 12:01 ` Richard B. Johnson

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