From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261601AbVE3OMI (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 10:12:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261603AbVE3OMI (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 10:12:08 -0400 Received: from [62.229.71.85] ([62.229.71.85]:19730 "HELO rialfa_ntsmtp.emfa.pt") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261601AbVE3OMB (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 10:12:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation From: Carlos Silva To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1117459153.12693.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:11:42 +0100 Message-Id: <1117462302.12693.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-FAP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-FAP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-FAP-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 1) X-FAP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 4, autolearn=not spam) X-FAP-MailScanner-From: r3pek@r3pek.homelinux.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 15:50 +0200, Måns Rullgård wrote: > Carlos Silva writes: > > > Hi, > > the company that i work for is going to buy a pair of Panda > > Gatedefenders 8200 that are linux based. To start, they never told us or > > mention on their site (as far as i searched) the use of linux in their > > product. Another thing is that they don't give us root access nor any > > other type of local access to the box besides the http page the > > appliance have to be managed. > > There's no requirement to give you full access to the machine. If you > don't like that, don't buy it. I know this :) > > > The thing is that i asked for the kernel source they use in the > > system and they said they can't give it since they have some > > proprietary code in it, as far as i understood. > > If they use some modules of their own writing, the general agreement > seems to be that they don't need to release the source code to those. > They should still give you the kernel source they used, along with any > patches they may have applied. I know this too. The thing is that they don't give me anything. They only sell me the appliance, nothing more. :( > > > I really don't know the proper way to report a GPL violation so i > > thought this was a good place. If there is any question please feel > > free to ask, i'll do my best to answer it. > > I'm having some problems myself with an STB manufacturer (Amino). The > STB is running a Busybox/Montavista Linux of some kind, and I need to > make some changes. To do this, they tell me I need the SDK, which is > only available under NDA, and then only after purchasing a support > contract for an ungodly number of dollars. Somehow, I get the feeling > they are on thin ice here. > Panda uses debian in this appliance ;)