From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Freezer Patches.
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:36:12 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1117697772.31082.54.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050602073119.GC1841@elf.ucw.cz>
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 09:31 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > If sys_sync() is not working, *fix sys_sync()*. [BTW I see that
> > > problem before and I think it is being worked on.] I'm *not* going to
> > > work around it in refrigerator.
> >
> > I'm not saying sys_sync is broken. I _am_ saying that if you have
> > processes submitting I/O while you're trying to sync, syncing will take
> > longer and you may well still end up with dirty buffers at the end. On
> > top of this, you may think freezing has failed because processes don't
> > enter the refrigerator within your timelimit (assuming you have
> > one).
>
> Then simple launch sys_sync(), let it finish, *then* do
> refrigeration. That way sys_sync() does not count to the timelimit.
>
> Now, sys_sync() takes too long on some setups. That needs to be fixed,
> anyway; users don't like to wait for 15 minutes after typing
> "sync". Do not work around it in refrigerator.
Whatever you guys decide to do (I actually do sys_sync() before freezing
on pmac and yes, it takes sometimes way too long), to be uber-safe, we
could/should _also_ do sync after freezing userland processes and before
freezing kernel threads (that is, splitting here). In fact, that would
help also avoid deadlocks where a frozen kernel thread is holding a
semaphore preventing a process from freezing.
That way, if we sys_sync() once processes are sleeping and before kernel
threads are, we pretty-much make sure no new dirty buffer will appear.
Anyway, that's mostly food for thoughts at this point
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-02 7:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-01 12:33 Freezer Patches Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-01 13:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-01 22:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-01 22:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-01 22:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-01 22:08 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-01 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-01 22:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-01 23:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-02 0:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-02 1:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-02 1:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-02 1:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-02 1:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-02 7:14 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-02 7:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-02 7:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-02 7:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-06-02 8:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-02 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
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