From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261254AbVFLT3W (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:29:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261247AbVFLT3C (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:29:02 -0400 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:7395 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262670AbVFLSlc (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:41:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Attempted summary of "RT patch acceptance" thread From: Lee Revell To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" , Bill Huey , Karim Yaghmour , Tim Bird , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com, dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org In-Reply-To: <20050612170147.GE5796@g5.random> References: <20050610173728.GA6564@g5.random> <20050610193926.GA19568@nietzsche.lynx.com> <42A9F788.2040107@opersys.com> <20050610223724.GA20853@nietzsche.lynx.com> <20050610225231.GF6564@g5.random> <20050610230836.GD21618@nietzsche.lynx.com> <20050610232955.GH6564@g5.random> <20050611014133.GO1300@us.ibm.com> <20050611155459.GB5796@g5.random> <20050611210417.GC1299@us.ibm.com> <20050612170147.GE5796@g5.random> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:43:02 -0400 Message-Id: <1118601783.20671.8.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 19:01 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > I seriously hoped core things > like memory controller in the northbridge or embedded in the cpu would > not risk to generate any starvation. Nforce4 chipsets have some problems that look like DMA starvation too, the RME people claim to have traced it to the SATA controller. http://www.rme-audio.de/english/techinfo/nforce4_tests.htm Basically these all fall under common sense engineering, you don't use buggy/unproved hardware for an RT or any mission critical system. Lee