From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [3/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 301-proc-acpi-sleep-activate-hook.patch
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:07:47 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1121162866.13869.142.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DsHMp-00062f-00@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Hi.
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 19:47, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com> wrote:
>
> > When the user has an initrd or initramfs, they're supposed to include
> >
> > echo > /proc/software_suspend/do_resume
>
> This is a different interface to the one in swsusp, which is under /sys.
> Do we really need to keep multiple interfaces to the same functionality?
We already have that - the reboot handler, acpi S4 support and the sysfs
interface. This should have been asked when sysfs was added :>. For the
sake of backwards compatibility for current suspend2 users, it should
stay for a while at least. The other thing here is that there is much
more to /proc/software_suspend than do_resume.
> > at the point in their initrd where drivers needed for accessing the
> > image, encryption keys and so on have been set up, but the root fs has
> > not yet been mounted. If they don't do that, we should scream loudly,
> > because mounting the root fs (even read only) will replay the journal,
> > making the image not match what is on disk. This in turn can and
> > probably will result in hard disk corruption if they echo to do_resume
> > from say /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.
>
> In general, the kernel does very little to prevent users from shooting
> themselves in the foot (or even chainsawing off their arms). We can do
> these checks in userspace rather than adding more kernel code.
Just because the kernel does very little, that doesn't mean it should.
Particularly for something like suspend to disk, where it's not just a
matter of an oops but of potential hard disk corruption, this is
important.
If I could do it in userspace, I would. The trouble is, the userspace
app may not be there to tell the user what is happening, and this might
be part of the problem.
Regards,
Nigel
--
Evolution.
Enumerate the requirements.
Consider the interdependencies.
Calculate the probabilities.
Be amazed that people believe it happened.
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2005-07-06 2:20 [0/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12 Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [1/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: submit_intro Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 6:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 8:12 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [4/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 302-init-hooks.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 8:38 ` Shaohua Li
2005-07-06 8:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 15:38 ` Bernard Blackham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [3/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 301-proc-acpi-sleep-activate-hook.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 23:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <E1DsHMp-00062f-00@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2005-07-12 10:07 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2005-07-12 10:22 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-12 10:34 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [6/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 351-syncthreads.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [5/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 350-workthreads.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 23:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 10:57 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 11:07 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 11:15 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 11:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 11:25 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 11:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [2/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 300-reboot-handler-hook.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:08 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 10:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [13/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 403-debug-pagealloc-support.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 23:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:48 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [11/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 401-e820-table-support.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 3:35 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 3:44 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 13:29 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [10/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 360-reset-kswapd-max-order-after-resume.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 23:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 9:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [9/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 354-disable-mce-checking-during-suspend-avoid-smp-deadlock.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-09 11:49 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-09 12:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [14/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 404-check-mounts-support.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 8:15 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 8:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [12/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 402-mtrr-remove-sysdev.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 23:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:33 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [7/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 352-disable-pdflush-during-suspend.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 3:34 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 3:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 13:27 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 8:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 9:52 ` Russell King
2005-07-10 23:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [8/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 353-disable-highmem-tlb-flush-for-copyback.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [23/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 600-suspend-header.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [21/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 550-documentation.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [15/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 405-clear-swapfile-bdev-in-swapoff.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [20/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 520-version-specific-x86_64.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [19/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 510-version-specific-mac.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 3:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 5:30 ` hugang
2005-07-06 6:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 3:53 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 3:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 13:40 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 5:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 6:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [16/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 406-dynamic-pageflags.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 7:46 ` Shaohua Li
2005-07-06 8:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 8:30 ` Shaohua Li
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [18/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 501-tlb-flushing-functions.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-09 11:52 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [22/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 560-Kconfig-and-Makefile-for-suspend2.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [17/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 500-version-specific-i386.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 3:43 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [29/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 606-all-settings.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:03 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-11 9:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [24/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 601-kernel_power_power-header.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 3:42 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-06 3:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [28/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 605-kernel_power_suspend.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 17:58 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 8:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [31/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 608-compression.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-09 11:55 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-09 12:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [32/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 609-driver-model.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:10 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 12:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 12:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [25/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 602-smp.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 12:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 13:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [27/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 604-utility.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [26/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 603-suspend2_common-headers.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 11:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 11:52 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-07-06 11:58 ` [PATCH] [26/48] " Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-09 11:53 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [30/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 607-atomic-copy.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-11 8:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [41/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 617-proc.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [36/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 612-pagedir.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [35/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 611-io.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:12 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 8:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [39/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 615-poweroff.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:18 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 8:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [40/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 616-prepare_image.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:13 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 8:34 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [38/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 614-plugins.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-11 10:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [37/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 613-pageflags.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 12:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 9:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-09 12:16 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-09 12:32 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [33/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 610-encryption.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:15 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 8:34 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [34/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 610-extent.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [46/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 622-swapwriter.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 6:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 12:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 13:05 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-07-08 13:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 13:32 ` [PATCH] [46/48] " Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 21:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 21:26 ` nickpiggin
2005-07-08 13:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-08 5:49 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-07-08 5:53 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [42/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 618-core.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:21 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 6:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 7:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [45/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 621-swsusp-tidy.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 9:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [48/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 624-filewriter.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-06 10:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 10:17 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-07-09 12:10 ` [PATCH] [48/48] " Pavel Machek
2005-07-09 12:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 23:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [47/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 623-generic-block-io.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:24 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [43/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 619-userspace-nofreeze.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 6:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-10 23:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-06 2:20 ` [PATCH] [44/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12: 620-userui.patch Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-10 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-12 6:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 6:40 ` [0/48] Suspend2 2.1.9.8 for 2.6.12 Pekka Enberg
2005-07-07 12:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-06 8:21 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 8:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-06 8:33 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 0:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 12:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-07 12:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 12:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-07-07 12:56 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 18:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-07-07 21:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-08 13:30 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-07-08 22:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-07 19:19 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-10 23:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 6:36 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 6:41 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 6:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-07-12 10:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
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