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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>,
	Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: Giving developers clue how many testers verified certain kernel version
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:34:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1122089660.6510.29.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0507222029200.6074@g5.osdl.org>

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 20:31 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Lee Revell wrote:
> > 
> > Con's interactivity benchmark looks quite promising for finding
> > scheduler related interactivity regressions.
> 
> I doubt that _any_ of the regressions that are user-visible are
> scheduler-related. They all tend to be disk IO issues (bad scheduling or
> just plain bad drivers), and then sometimes just VM misbehaviour.
> 
> People are looking at all these RT patches, when the thing is that most
> nobody will ever be able to tell the difference between 10us and 1ms
> latencies unless it causes a skip in audio.

I agree re: the RT patches, but what makes Con's benchmark useful is
that it also tests interactivity (measuring in msecs vs. usecs) with
everything running SCHED_NORMAL, which is a much better approximation of
a desktop load.  And the numbers do go well up into the range where
people would notice, tens and hundreds of ms.

Lee




  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-23  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-23  0:44 Giving developers clue how many testers verified certain kernel version Blaisorblade
2005-07-23  0:50 ` David Lang
2005-07-23  0:59   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-23  1:07 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23  3:09   ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23  2:15     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23  3:21       ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23  2:34         ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23  3:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-23  2:40           ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23  3:34           ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-07-23  9:05             ` Con Kolivas
2005-07-23 16:45               ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23  5:34         ` Giving developers clue how many testers verifiedcertain " Al Boldi
2005-07-23  3:56       ` Giving developers clue how many testers verified certain " Adrian Bunk
2005-07-23  9:21 ` Jesper Krogh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-22  1:34 Martin MOKREJŠ
2005-07-22  2:10 ` Mark Nipper
2005-07-22  2:38   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
2005-07-22  2:40     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-22 23:22       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-22 23:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-24 18:45   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
2005-07-24 18:54     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-24 19:10       ` Martin MOKREJŠ

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