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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:30:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1123065057.1590.77.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1123037933.11101.11.camel@c-67-188-6-232.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>

On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 19:58 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> The stack trace should show where the problem is . If it's in the kernel
> we will see kernel functions before do_IRQ() , if it's just a whacked
> out task then do_IRQ() would be first in the stack trace . 

The problem is not differentiating tho output as kernel or user, I just
don't want too many false positives.

> 
> I can't speak for everyone else, but I would want to catch both. That
> way we'll know if it's just a whacked out task, or a kernel problem.

The thing is, it may be OK for a RT process to run in userspace for 10
seconds without sleeping.  If this is the case, you will constantly get
this output saying you may mave a bug. But if the kernel is running for
10 seconds without scheduling, I strongly believe that is a bug.  Unless
someone has some special driver thread, I don't know of any kernel path
that runs for 10 seconds without going back to userspace or sleeping.

I still wish there was a nice arch-independent way to tell if the task
is running in user space from do_IRQ.  Maybe there is?  I'll post
another thread and ask the question.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-03 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-30 16:03 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Ingo Molnar
2005-07-30 20:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-30 20:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-31  4:47     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31  6:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01  4:45         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 21:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 21:12             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-02 13:56           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 14:05             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:20               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 15:37                 ` 2.6.13-rc3 -> sluggish PS2 keyboard (was Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01) Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:44                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-08-02 15:46                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:47                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:53                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 15:55                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-08-02 15:55                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-02 15:38                 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Lee Revell
2005-07-31  8:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-31 10:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-31 15:56         ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-05 Gene Heskett
2005-08-01 18:22 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 19:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 20:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 21:09     ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-01 21:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-02  0:43       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 21:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 21:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 21:20   ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-02  0:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 10:19       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-02 19:45         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 19:56           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 23:38           ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03  0:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03  1:12               ` George Anzinger
2005-08-03  1:48                 ` Keith Owens
2005-08-03  2:12                   ` George Anzinger
2005-08-03  2:25               ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03  2:42                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03  2:58                   ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03 10:30                     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-08-03 15:10                       ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03 10:37                     ` [Question] arch-independent way to differentiate between user and kernel Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 10:48                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-03 12:18                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 10:56                       ` [Question] arch-independent way to differentiate between user andkernel linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-03 11:44                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 12:04                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-03 12:30                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 14:50                     ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 15:15                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 15:57                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 16:44                       ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]                         ` <20050812125844.GA13357@elte.hu>
2005-08-26  4:24                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-26  6:08                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-26 11:20                               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-30 10:58                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-08-30 11:14                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-30 11:00                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-08-02  3:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02  4:07       ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-02 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-04 12:20 ` Andrzej Nowak

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