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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Calling suspend() in halt/restart/shutdown -> not a good idea
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:41:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1123069285.30257.29.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050802100435.GC1442@elf.ucw.cz>

On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 12:04 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > Why are we calling driver suspend routines in these ? This is _not_ a
> > good idea ! On various machines, the mecanisms for shutting down are
> > quite different from suspend/resume, and current drivers have too many
> > bugs to make that safe. I keep getting all sort of reports of machines
> 
> Well, powerdown at the end of suspend-to-disk should be *very* similar
> to normal powerdown => if device_suspend() breaks something, it is a
> bug in driver anyway.

Power Down != Suspend. Period.

> Now, we may have a lot of such bugs, and the change went in too early,
> but in the long run...

Crap. It's not the same thing.

Ben.



      reply	other threads:[~2005-08-03 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-01 15:09 Calling suspend() in halt/restart/shutdown -> not a good idea Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-01 18:37 ` Marc Ballarin
2005-08-01 20:08   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-02  9:54     ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 11:40       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-03 16:53         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-03 19:59           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-04 20:56           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-04 21:04         ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02  9:53 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:40   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-08-02 14:45     ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 11:43       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-03 11:43     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-03 11:38   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-04  2:27     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-02 10:04 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 11:41   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]

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