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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" <linux-os@analogic.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [Question] arch-independent way to differentiate between user andkernel
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 07:44:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1123069449.1590.93.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0508030647140.9343@chaos.analogic.com>

On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 06:56 -0400, linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> The interrupt handler gets a pointer to a structure called "struct pt_regs".
> That contains, amongst other things, the registers pushed onto the stack
> during the interrupt. If the segments were kernel segments, the interrupt
> occurred while in kernel mode. But..... If you have any code that
> needs to know, it's horribly and irreparably broken beyond all
> repair. Interrupts need to be handled NOW, without regard to what
> got interrupted.
> 

By the time you get to __do_IRQ there's already more stuff on the stack.
And the pt_regs is arch specific so this doesn't help.

This is for debugging, so please don't jump to conclusions that what I'm
doing is broken.  I'm writing code to look for soft deadlocks on a fully
preemptible kernel (Ingo's RT).  For example, there's a nasty location
in kjournald that goes into a busy loop waiting for a lock to be
released. In the mainline kernel this is OK since the holding of these
locks turn off preemption. But Ingo's kernel does not turn off
preemption here, and if the kjournald is an RT task, it will prevent all
tasks lower in priority than itself from running.  I'm writing code to
detect this.

Take a look at the 
"[patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01" thread.

-- Steve




  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-03 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-30 16:03 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Ingo Molnar
2005-07-30 20:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-30 20:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-31  4:47     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31  6:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01  4:45         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 21:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 21:12             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-02 13:56           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 14:05             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:20               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 15:37                 ` 2.6.13-rc3 -> sluggish PS2 keyboard (was Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01) Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:44                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-08-02 15:46                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:47                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:53                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 15:55                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-08-02 15:55                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-02 15:38                 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Lee Revell
2005-07-31  8:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-31 10:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-31 15:56         ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-05 Gene Heskett
2005-08-01 18:22 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 19:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 20:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 21:09     ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-01 21:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-02  0:43       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 21:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-01 21:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-01 21:20   ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-02  0:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 10:19       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-02 19:45         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 19:56           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02 23:38           ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03  0:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03  1:12               ` George Anzinger
2005-08-03  1:48                 ` Keith Owens
2005-08-03  2:12                   ` George Anzinger
2005-08-03  2:25               ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03  2:42                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03  2:58                   ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03 10:30                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 15:10                       ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-03 10:37                     ` [Question] arch-independent way to differentiate between user and kernel Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 10:48                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-03 12:18                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 10:56                       ` [Question] arch-independent way to differentiate between user andkernel linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-03 11:44                         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-08-03 12:04                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-03 12:30                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 14:50                     ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.13-rc4-V0.7.52-01 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 15:15                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 15:57                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-03 16:44                       ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]                         ` <20050812125844.GA13357@elte.hu>
2005-08-26  4:24                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-26  6:08                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-26 11:20                               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-30 10:58                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-08-30 11:14                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-30 11:00                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-08-02  3:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-02  4:07       ` Daniel Walker
2005-08-02 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-04 12:20 ` Andrzej Nowak

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