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From: John McCutchan <ttb@tentacle.dhs.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robert Love <rml@novell.com>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [patch] stop inotify from sending random DELETE_SELF event under load
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:27:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1127190473.18595.2.camel@vertex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0509192054060.2553@g5.osdl.org>

On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 21:03 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, John McCutchan wrote:
> > 
> > I think the name fsnotify_inoderemove is causing some confusion. We only
> > care that some name that is pointing to this inode has been deleted. 
> > Remember, it was suggested as a replacement for fsnotify_unlink. We
> > don't care if the inode is actually going away or not. 
> 
> Ahh. 
> 
> Well, the problem is one of ordering. You could do it unconditionally at 
> the top of d_delete(). If that's ok, then good.
> 
> The problem with that is that the name will still be available for a while 
> afterwards - another process could look it up on another CPU.
> 
> And the _name_ won't be gone until after we've already dropped the inode.  
> Remember? You got oopses because you were trying to access an inode that
> simply didn't exist any more..
> 
> That's where "dentry_iput()" comes in. It's after you've removed the name, 
> but before the inode is gone. However, then you do end up having the 
> problem that you can't tell a delete from a "drop the dcache entry" any 
> more.

Yep, that sums it up. The new patch looks good, I will have it tested.

-- 
John McCutchan <ttb@tentacle.dhs.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-20  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-20  0:48 [patch] stop inotify from sending random DELETE_SELF event under load John McCutchan
2005-09-20  1:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  2:00   ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  2:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  3:46       ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  4:03         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  4:24           ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  4:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  4:36             ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  4:46               ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  4:53                 ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  4:58                   ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  5:06                     ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  5:17                       ` Al Viro
2005-09-20 12:34                         ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20 16:38                           ` Al Viro
2005-09-20 17:44                             ` Ray Lee
2005-09-20 18:12                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20 18:22                                 ` Al Viro
2005-09-20 19:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20 22:53                                     ` John McCutchan
2005-09-21  0:33                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-21  0:52                                         ` John McCutchan
2005-09-21  1:01                                       ` Al Viro
2005-09-21  1:41                                         ` John McCutchan
2005-09-21  2:36                                           ` Al Viro
2005-09-21  8:35                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-21  9:15                                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-21  9:17                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-21 14:45                                                   ` Joel Becker
2005-09-21 18:08                                                     ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-20 18:26                             ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20 19:39                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  4:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  4:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-20  4:27           ` John McCutchan [this message]
2005-09-20  3:33     ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  3:50       ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  3:31   ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  3:51     ` John McCutchan
2005-09-20  8:33   ` Christoph Hellwig

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