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From: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@gmail.com>
To: Guido Fiala <gfiala@s.netic.de>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache?
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:48:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1129668484.23632.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200510182201.11241.gfiala@s.netic.de>

On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 22:01 +0200, Guido Fiala wrote:
> (please note, i'am not subscribed to the list, please CC me on reply)
> 
> Story:
> Once in while we have a discussion at the vdr (video disk recorder) mailing 
> list about very large files trashing the filesystems memory cache leading to 
> unnecessary delays accessing directory contents no longer cached.
> 
> This program and certainly all applications that deal with very large files 
> only read once (much larger than usual memory)  - it happens that all other 
> cached blocks of the filessystem are removed from memory solely to keep as 
> much as possible of that file in memory, which seems to be a bad strategy in 
> most situations.
> 
> Of course one could always implement f_advise-calls in all applications, but i 
> suggest a discussion if a maximum (configurable) in-memory-cache on a 
> per-file base should be implemented in linux/mm or where this belongs.
> 
> My guess was, it has something to do with mm/readahead.c, a test limiting the 
> result of the function "max_sane_readahead(...) to 8 MBytes as a quick and 
> dirty test did not solve the issue, but i might have done something wrong.
> 
> I've searched the archive but could not find a previous discussion - is this a 
> new idea?
> 
> It would be interesting to discuss if and when this proposed feature could 
> lead to better performance or has any unwanted side effects.
> 
> Thanks for ideas on that issue.

Is there a reason why those applications couldn't use O_DIRECT ?

Thanks,
Badari


  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-18 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-18 20:01 large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache? Guido Fiala
2005-10-18 20:48 ` Badari Pulavarty [this message]
2005-10-20 15:23   ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19  3:02 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19  4:37   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19  5:45     ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19 11:01       ` gfiala
2005-10-19 11:10     ` gfiala
2005-10-19 15:54       ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19 19:49         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19 22:26           ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-20  6:28           ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19  4:10 ` Lee Revell
2005-10-19 15:43   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19 17:58   ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19 18:43     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-10-19 18:52       ` Guido Fiala
     [not found] <4Z5WG-1iM-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <4Z6zs-27l-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-18 21:58   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-18 23:05     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19  0:20       ` David Lang
2005-10-19  0:33       ` Fawad Lateef
2005-10-19  1:42         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-10-19  7:23       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-19 11:06         ` gfiala
2005-10-19 13:43     ` Avi Kivity

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