From: gfiala@s.netic.de
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache?
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:06:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1129720011.435628cb150f5@webmail.LF.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0510190902210.2281@be1.lrz>
Zitat von Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>:
> You can alyo cat a big file into /dev/null. I made those examples in order
> to demonstrate the problem with using O_DIRECT.
O_DIRECT has to much impact at the mentioned "vdr" due to unwanted side effects
either.
>
> OTOH, I don't realtime stuff on my computer, so I'm not really affected,
> but I'll try to show it anyway.
>
> > > Changing a few programs will only partly cover the problems.
> > >
> > > I guess the solution would be using random cache eviction rather than
> > > a FIFO. I never took a look the cache mechanism, so I may very well be
> > > wrong here.
> >
> > Read-only pages should be re-cycled really easily & quickly. I can't
> > belive read-only pages are causing you all the trouble.
>
> Just a q&d test:
>
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real 0m0.442s
> user 0m0.008s
> sys 0m0.024s
>
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real 0m0.077s
> user 0m0.008s
> sys 0m0.008s
>
> cat $BIGFILES_1.5GB > /Dev/null
>
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real 0m0.270s
> user 0m0.008s
> sys 0m0.008s
>
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real 0m0.078s
> user 0m0.004s
> sys 0m0.004s
>
>
Thanks for pointing this out - this clearly shows the effect.
Now consider a mildly loaded multitasking environment running X, some services,
window-manager, email, maybe some databases and a streaming video-application
at once (so does mine) - the video-file will have unwanted impact on all the
other applications - leading to unnecessary reloads of lots of files, inodes
etc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-19 11:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <4Z6zs-27l-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-18 21:58 ` large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache? Bodo Eggert
2005-10-18 23:05 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19 0:20 ` David Lang
2005-10-19 0:33 ` Fawad Lateef
2005-10-19 1:42 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-10-19 7:23 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-19 11:06 ` gfiala [this message]
2005-10-19 13:43 ` Avi Kivity
2005-10-18 20:01 Guido Fiala
2005-10-18 20:48 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-20 15:23 ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19 3:02 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19 4:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19 5:45 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19 11:01 ` gfiala
2005-10-19 11:10 ` gfiala
2005-10-19 15:54 ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19 19:49 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19 22:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-20 6:28 ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19 4:10 ` Lee Revell
2005-10-19 15:43 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19 17:58 ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19 18:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-10-19 18:52 ` Guido Fiala
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