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From: gfiala@s.netic.de
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache?
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:06:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1129720011.435628cb150f5@webmail.LF.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0510190902210.2281@be1.lrz>

Zitat von Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>:
> You can alyo cat a big file into /dev/null. I made those examples in order 
> to demonstrate the problem with using O_DIRECT.

O_DIRECT has to much impact at the mentioned "vdr" due to unwanted side effects 
either.

> 
> OTOH, I don't realtime stuff on my computer, so I'm not really affected, 
> but I'll try to show it anyway.
> 
> > > Changing a few programs will only partly cover the problems.
> > > 
> > > I guess the solution would be using random cache eviction rather than
> > > a FIFO. I never took a look the cache mechanism, so I may very well be
> > > wrong here.
> > 
> > Read-only pages should be re-cycled really easily & quickly. I can't
> > belive read-only pages are causing you all the trouble.
> 
> Just a q&d test:
> 
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real    0m0.442s
> user    0m0.008s
> sys     0m0.024s
> 
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real    0m0.077s
> user    0m0.008s
> sys     0m0.008s
> 
> cat $BIGFILES_1.5GB > /Dev/null
> 
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real    0m0.270s
> user    0m0.008s
> sys     0m0.008s
> 
> $ time ls -l $DIR > /dev/null
> real    0m0.078s
> user    0m0.004s
> sys     0m0.004s
> 
> 
Thanks for pointing this out - this clearly shows the effect.
Now consider a mildly loaded multitasking environment running X, some services, 
window-manager, email, maybe some databases and a streaming video-application 
at once (so does mine) - the video-file will have unwanted impact on all the 
other applications - leading to unnecessary reloads of lots of files, inodes 
etc.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-19 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4Z5WG-1iM-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <4Z6zs-27l-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-18 21:58   ` large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache? Bodo Eggert
2005-10-18 23:05     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19  0:20       ` David Lang
2005-10-19  0:33       ` Fawad Lateef
2005-10-19  1:42         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-10-19  7:23       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-19 11:06         ` gfiala [this message]
2005-10-19 13:43     ` Avi Kivity
2005-10-18 20:01 Guido Fiala
2005-10-18 20:48 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-20 15:23   ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19  3:02 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19  4:37   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19  5:45     ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19 11:01       ` gfiala
2005-10-19 11:10     ` gfiala
2005-10-19 15:54       ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19 19:49         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19 22:26           ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-20  6:28           ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19  4:10 ` Lee Revell
2005-10-19 15:43   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19 17:58   ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19 18:43     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-10-19 18:52       ` Guido Fiala

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