From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Notifier chains are unsafe
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:20:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1130368820.3586.213.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200510262344.37982.ak@suse.de>
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 23:44 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 22:40, Alan Stern wrote:
> l> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Andreas Kleen wrote:
> >
> > > > Note that the RCU documentation says RCU critical sections are not
> > > > allowed
> > > > to sleep.
> > >
> > > In this case it would be ok.
> >
> > I don't understand. If it's okay for an RCU critical section to sleep in
> > this case, why wouldn't it be okay always? What's special here?
> >
> > Aren't there requirements about critical sections finishing on the same
> > CPU as they started on?
>
>
> Like I wrote earlier: as long as the notifier doesn't unregister itself
> the critical RCU section for the list walk is only a small part of notifier_call_chain.
> It's basically a stable anchor in the list that won't change.
Andy, comment above rcu_read_lock says, "It is illegal to block while in
an RCU read-side critical section."
As i mentioned in the other email we are discussing about "task
notifier" in lse-tech. We thought of using RCU, but one of the
requirements was that the registered function should be able to block,
so we are looking for alternatives.
>
> The only change needed would be to make these parts unpreemptable and of course
> add a RCU step during unregistration.
>
> -Andi
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-26 23:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-24 20:48 Notifier chains are unsafe Alan Stern
2005-10-25 16:59 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-25 23:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 19:05 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-26 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 21:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 23:20 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2005-10-27 1:17 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-28 1:36 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 14:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 22:40 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 20:43 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 21:21 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 23:02 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 0:48 ` Keith Owens
2005-10-28 1:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 14:23 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-28 22:15 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-29 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-31 22:22 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 15:24 ` Alan Stern
2005-11-01 20:20 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 21:20 ` Alan Stern
2005-11-02 9:50 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-02 16:03 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <mailman.1130460600.30060.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2005-10-28 4:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-10-25 23:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 0:01 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 17:11 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-27 2:46 ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-29 12:25 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-26 6:11 ` Keith Owens
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