From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>, Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Notifier chains are unsafe
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:02:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1130454128.3586.268.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0510271658510.6660-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 17:21 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > How does the following code look (only change w.r.t the existing usage
> > model is that unregister can now return -EAGAIN, if the list is busy).
> >
> > One assumption the following code makes is that the store of a pointer
> > (next in the list) is atomic. If that assumption is unacceptable, we can
> > do one of two things:
> > 1. change notify_register to return -EAGAIN if list is busy.
> > 2. move the chain list in call_chain under lock and use that
> > list instead of using the chain in the head, and restore it back
> > before returning.
>
> I see a couple of problems (aside from the trivial one where you increment
> nh->readers before the early exit).
Just a programmatic error. shouldn't be a problem.
>
> The biggest problem is allowing unregister to return an error. None of
> its callers will expect that, and they all will have to be changed. There
> are a lot more calls to unregister than there are chain definitions.
IMO, we will not be changing the interface so it should be fine.
> The other problem is that you violated Keith's statement that
> notifier_call_chain shouldn't take any locks. On the other hand, if we
I would interpret Keith's comment like this: callout should not be
called with any locks held (because that would limit the callouts from
blocking).
Keith, can you please clarify
>
> put together all the requirements people have listed for notifier chains,
> the resulting set is inconsistent! That's part of the reason why I
> suggested implementing two different kinds of chains.
>
> Alan Stern
>
>
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-24 20:48 Notifier chains are unsafe Alan Stern
2005-10-25 16:59 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-25 23:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 19:05 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-26 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 21:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 23:20 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 1:17 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-28 1:36 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 14:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 22:40 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 20:43 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 21:21 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 23:02 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2005-10-28 0:48 ` Keith Owens
2005-10-28 1:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 14:23 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-28 22:15 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-29 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-31 22:22 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 15:24 ` Alan Stern
2005-11-01 20:20 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 21:20 ` Alan Stern
2005-11-02 9:50 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-02 16:03 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <mailman.1130460600.30060.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2005-10-28 4:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-10-25 23:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 0:01 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 17:11 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-27 2:46 ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-29 12:25 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-26 6:11 ` Keith Owens
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