From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Joe Seigh <jseigh_02@xemaps.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Notifier chains are unsafe
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:36:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1130463396.3586.282.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <djp9r4$8dj$1@sea.gmane.org>
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 21:17 -0400, Joe Seigh wrote:
> Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
> > Andy, comment above rcu_read_lock says, "It is illegal to block while in
> > an RCU read-side critical section."
> >
> > As i mentioned in the other email we are discussing about "task
> > notifier" in lse-tech. We thought of using RCU, but one of the
> > requirements was that the registered function should be able to block,
> > so we are looking for alternatives.
> >
>
> What are the requirements that preclude a conventional rwlock? If you
> don't have any, then you should go with that.
I was thinking the problem is that we cannot hold any locks while
calling the callouts.
But, As Keith mentioned, we cannot even acquire a lock in the
notifier_call_chain.
Thanks,
chandra
>
> The other solutions I've mentioned before.
>
> Copy on read.
>
> Various lock-free schemes:
> SMR hazard pointers
> RCU+SMR (probably overkill since you don't need the read side performance)
> reference counting
> proxy reference counting
>
> The last would probably be the easiest to implement expecially if you used
> a spinlock to safely increment the reference count without the more complicated
> atomic thread-safety. It's also more self contained.
>
> User land implementations of most of the above can be found at
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/atomic-ptr-plus/
>
> The proxy refcounting stuff is in the atomic-ptr-plus package. It's
> in c++ but you should be able to figure it out.
>
> RCU+SMR is in the fastsmr package.
>
>
>
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> Joe Seigh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-28 1:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-24 20:48 Notifier chains are unsafe Alan Stern
2005-10-25 16:59 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-25 23:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 19:05 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-26 20:40 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 21:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 23:20 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 1:17 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-28 1:36 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2005-10-27 14:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 22:40 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 20:43 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 21:21 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 23:02 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 0:48 ` Keith Owens
2005-10-28 1:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 14:23 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-28 22:15 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-29 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2005-10-31 22:22 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 15:24 ` Alan Stern
2005-11-01 20:20 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 21:20 ` Alan Stern
2005-11-02 9:50 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-02 16:03 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <mailman.1130460600.30060.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2005-10-28 4:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-10-25 23:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 0:01 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 17:11 ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-27 2:46 ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-29 12:25 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-26 6:11 ` Keith Owens
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