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From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Joe Seigh <jseigh_02@xemaps.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Notifier chains are unsafe
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:36:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1130463396.3586.282.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <djp9r4$8dj$1@sea.gmane.org>

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 21:17 -0400, Joe Seigh wrote:
> Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
> > Andy, comment above rcu_read_lock says, "It is illegal to block while in
> > an RCU read-side critical section."
> > 
> > As i mentioned in the other email we are discussing about "task
> > notifier" in lse-tech. We thought of using RCU, but one of the
> > requirements was that the registered function should be able to block,
> > so we are looking for alternatives.
> > 
> 
> What are the requirements that preclude a conventional rwlock?  If you
> don't have any, then you should go with that.

I was thinking the problem is that we cannot hold any locks while
calling the callouts.

But, As Keith mentioned, we cannot even acquire a lock in the
notifier_call_chain.

Thanks,

chandra  
> 
> The other solutions I've mentioned before.
> 
> Copy on read.
> 
> Various lock-free schemes:
> SMR hazard pointers
> RCU+SMR (probably overkill since you don't need the read side performance)
> reference counting
> proxy reference counting
> 
> The last would probably be the easiest to implement expecially if you used
> a spinlock to safely increment the reference count without the more complicated
> atomic thread-safety.  It's also more self contained.
> 
> User land implementations of most of the above can be found at
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/atomic-ptr-plus/
> 
> The proxy refcounting stuff is in the atomic-ptr-plus package.  It's
> in c++ but you should be able to figure it out.
> 
> RCU+SMR is in the fastsmr package.
> 
> 
> 
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> Joe Seigh
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-- 

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    Chandra Seetharaman               | Be careful what you choose....
              - sekharan@us.ibm.com   |      .......you may get it.
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-28  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-24 20:48 Notifier chains are unsafe Alan Stern
2005-10-25 16:59 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-25 23:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 18:46   ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 19:05     ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-26 20:40       ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 21:44         ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 23:20           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27  1:17             ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-28  1:36               ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2005-10-27 14:13           ` Alan Stern
2005-10-26 22:40     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 15:28       ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 20:43         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-27 21:21           ` Alan Stern
2005-10-27 23:02             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28  0:48               ` Keith Owens
2005-10-28  1:34                 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-28 14:23                   ` Alan Stern
2005-10-28 22:15                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-29 14:51                       ` Alan Stern
2005-10-31 22:22                         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 15:24                           ` Alan Stern
2005-11-01 20:20                             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-01 21:20                               ` Alan Stern
2005-11-02  9:50                                 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-02 16:03                                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1130460600.30060.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2005-10-28  4:35                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-10-25 23:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26  0:01   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-10-26 17:11     ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-27  2:46       ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-29 12:25         ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-26  6:11 ` Keith Owens

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