From: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: vojtech@suse.cz, lenz@cs.wisc.edu,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: best way to handle LEDs
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:05:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1130969124.8523.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051102211146.GG23943@elf.ucw.cz>
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 22:11 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Perhaps I'd keep it simple and leave it at
> > >
> > > * do hardcoded kernel action for this led
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > * do whatever userspace tells you.
> > >
> > > That way you will not be able to remap charger LED onto hard disk
> > > indicator, but we can support that on ibm-acpi too. (Where hw controls
> > > LEDs like "sleep", but lets you control them. You can't remap,
> > > though).
> >
> > Then the arguments start about which function should be hardcoded to
> > which leds and why can't userspace access these triggers?
>
> Because there are some machines (IBM thinkpad) where LEDs are either
> driven by userspace, or driven by hardware. I'd like to export that
> functionality using same interface.
A specific limitation of ACPI LEDs shouldn't constrain the interface and
spoil things for everything that can support generic triggers.
> > I'd prefer a totally flexible system and it doesn't really add much
> > complexity once you have a trigger framework which we're going to need
> > to handle mutiple led trigger sources sanely anyway.
>
> Unfortunately hardware can not do that, at least for IBM
> thinkpad.
So we need to find a way of providing this functionality, maybe by
allowing leds to provide their own specific triggers. Thinking about
this limitation, I think it can be handled by the trigger
implementation.
> Plus, remapping harddisk indicator on battery led is not
> something I'd like to support :-).
It wouldn't do that be default but I see no reason to constrain any
interface to stop this. The kernel isn't supposed to set policy (or in
my view put unnecessary constraints on interfaces).
Richard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-02 22:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-01 23:44 best way to handle LEDs Pavel Machek
2005-11-02 0:39 ` Richard Purdie
2005-11-02 1:03 ` John Lenz
2005-11-02 8:01 ` Chase Venters
2005-11-02 13:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-02 14:38 ` Richard Purdie
2005-11-02 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-02 22:05 ` Richard Purdie [this message]
2005-11-02 1:57 ` root
2005-11-02 11:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-11-02 2:47 ` Ben Dooks
2005-11-02 9:48 ` Alessandro Zummo
2005-11-02 9:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-03 2:31 ` John Lenz
2005-11-07 23:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-08 0:27 ` John Lenz
2005-11-08 9:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-08 12:07 ` Richard Purdie
2005-11-08 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-02 10:18 ` Paul Mundt
2005-11-02 20:26 ` Robert Schwebel
2005-11-02 21:13 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-02 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2005-11-03 2:52 ` John Lenz
2005-11-03 6:21 ` Robert Schwebel
2005-11-03 8:15 ` Russell King
2005-11-03 9:57 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-03 14:49 ` Russell King
2005-11-03 15:34 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-03 16:01 ` Russell King
2005-11-03 16:11 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-03 16:38 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-03 16:35 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-04 0:41 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-11-03 14:26 ` Rich Walker
2005-11-03 3:09 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 8:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-11-03 9:59 ` Pavel Machek
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