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From: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
To: David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: linas <linas@austin.ibm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bluesmoke-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: typedefs and structs
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:13:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1131495228.12797.67.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051108235759.GA28271@localhost.localdomain>

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On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 10:57 +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 05:23:27PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote:
[snip]
> > The ampersand says "pass argument by reference (so as to get arg passing
> > efficiency) but force coder to write code as if they were passing by value"
> > As a result, it gets difficult to pass null pointers (for reasons
> > similar to the difficulty of passing null pointers in Java (and yes,
> > I loathe Java, sorry to subject you to that))  Anyway, that's a C++ trick 
> > only; I wish it was in C so I could experiment more and find out if I 
> > like it or hate it.
> 
> I hate it: it obscures the fact that it's a pass-by-reference at the
> callsite, which is useful information.  Although this is, admittedly,
> the least confusing use of C++ reference types.

I agree with you about that one.  It's yet another thing for C
programmers to have to learn to watch for C++ doing behind your back.

However, it isn't any worse than having an ordinary C pointer to some
struct.  If the pointer was passed to the current function from above,
and you're passing it to another function below, you really don't know
what's going to happen to the structure unless you go look.  Just like
the C++ reference, the C pointer doesn't get an address-of operator to
remind you.
-- 
Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-09  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-03 23:59 [PATCH 0/42] PCI Error Recovery for PPC64 and misc device drivers Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:42 ` [PATCH 1/42] ppc64: uniform usage of bus unit id interfaces linas
2005-11-04  0:47 ` [PATCH 2/42]: ppc64: misc minor cleanup Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:48 ` [PATCH 3/42]: ppc64: PCI address cache minor fixes Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:48 ` [PATCH 4/42]: ppc64: PCI error rate statistics Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 5/42]: ppc64: RTAS error reporting restructuring Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 6/42]: ppc64: avoid PCI error reporting for empty slots Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 7/42]: ppc64: serialize reports of PCI errors Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 8/42]: ppc64: escape hatch for spinning interrupt deadlocks Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 9/42]: ppc64: bugfix: crash on PCI hotplug Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 10/42]: ppc64: bugfix: don't silently gnore PCI errors Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:49 ` [PATCH 11/42]: ppc64: move code to powerpc directory from ppc64 Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:50 ` [PATCH 12/42]: ppc64: PCI error event dispatcher Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:50 ` [PATCH 13/42]: ppc64: PCI reset support routines Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:50 ` [PATCH 14/42]: ppc64: Save & restore of PCI device BARS Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:50 ` [PATCH 15/42]: Documentation: PCI Error Recovery Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:50 ` [PATCH 16/42]: PCI: PCI Error reporting callbacks Linas Vepstas
2005-11-05  6:11   ` Greg KH
2005-11-06 23:25     ` Paul Mackerras
2005-11-07 17:55       ` linas
2005-11-07 18:27         ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 18:56           ` typedefs and structs [was Re: [PATCH 16/42]: PCI: PCI Error reporting callbacks] linas
2005-11-07 19:02             ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 19:36               ` linas
2005-11-07 20:02                 ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 20:41                   ` linas
2005-11-07 20:46                     ` Greg KH
2005-11-08  1:11                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-08  1:18                       ` Neil Brown
2005-11-08 23:36                         ` typedefs and structs linas
2005-12-16 13:09                         ` typedefs and structs [was Re: [PATCH 16/42]: PCI: PCI Error reporting callbacks] Denis Vlasenko
2005-12-16 13:22                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-11-08 23:23                       ` typedefs and structs linas
2005-11-08 23:33                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-09  9:22                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-08 23:57                         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-09  0:30                           ` linas
2005-11-09  0:37                             ` Douglas McNaught
2005-11-09  0:48                               ` linas
2005-11-09  0:59                                 ` Douglas McNaught
2005-11-09  2:14                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-09  1:51                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-09 10:16                                   ` J.A. Magallon
2005-11-09 16:22                                     ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-09 19:20                                       ` linas
2005-11-09 19:36                                         ` thockin
2005-11-09 19:38                                           ` linas
2005-11-09 20:39                                             ` thockin
2005-11-09 21:53                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-09 22:00                                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-09 20:55                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-11-09 20:26                                         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-09 22:12                                           ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-09 22:37                                             ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-09 22:47                                               ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-09 22:54                                               ` typedefs and structs - trim request doug thompson
2005-11-09 23:29                                             ` typedefs and structs Andreas Schwab
2005-11-09 23:40                                               ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-10  3:39                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-10  3:49                                                   ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-10  8:15                                             ` J.A. Magallon
2005-11-10 13:27                                               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-11-10 14:18                                                 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-10 19:21                                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-10 19:28                                                   ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-10 20:53                                                     ` J.A. Magallon
2005-11-09 23:29                                           ` linas
2005-11-09 21:43                                         ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-11-10  0:27                                           ` linas
2005-11-08 23:57                         ` David Gibson
2005-11-09  0:13                           ` Zan Lynx [this message]
2005-11-09  0:42                             ` linas
2005-11-09  9:25                               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-07 19:04             ` typedefs and structs [was Re: [PATCH 16/42]: PCI: PCI Error reporting callbacks] Randy.Dunlap
2005-11-07 19:57           ` [PATCH 1/7]: PCI revised [PATCH 16/42]: PCI: PCI Error reporting callbacks linas
2005-11-07 19:59             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-07 20:03             ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 21:21               ` [PATCH 1/7]: PCI revised (2) " linas
2005-11-07 21:37                 ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 21:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 22:54                     ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 22:43                   ` [PATCH 1/7]: PCI revised (3) " linas
2005-11-07 22:53                     ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 23:19                       ` linas
2005-11-08  2:43                         ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 21:30             ` [PATCH 2/7]: Revised [PATCH 27/42]: SCSI: add PCI error recovery to IPR dev driver linas
2005-11-07 21:40               ` Brian King
2005-11-07 22:03                 ` linas
2005-11-07 21:31             ` [PATCH 3/7]: Revised [PATCH 28/42]: SCSI: add PCI error recovery to Symbios " linas
2005-11-07 21:34             ` [PATCH 4/7]: Revised [PATCH 29/42]: ethernet: add PCI error recovery to e100 " linas
2005-11-07 21:36             ` [PATCH: 5/7]: Revised: [PATCH 30/42]: ethernet: add PCI error recovery to e1000 " linas
2005-11-07 21:37             ` [PATCH 6/7]: Revised [PATCH 31/42]: ethernet: add PCI error recovery to ixgb " linas
2005-11-07 21:39             ` [PATCH 7/7]: Revised [PATCH 32/42]: RFC: Add compile-time config options linas
2005-11-04  0:50 ` [PATCH 17/42]: ppc64: mark failed devices Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:51 ` [PATCH 18/42]: ppc64: bugfix: crash on dlpar slot add, remove Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:51 ` [PATCH 19/42]: ppc64: bugfix: crash on PHB add Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04 16:20   ` John Rose
2005-11-04 16:35     ` linas
2005-11-04  0:51 ` [PATCH 20/42]: ppc64: PCI hotplug common code elimination Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:51 ` [PATCH 21/42]: PCI: cleanup/simplify ppc64 PCI hotplug code Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:52 ` [PATCH 22/42]: PCI: remove duplicted pci " Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04 21:54   ` John Rose
2005-11-04  0:52 ` [PATCH 23/42]: ppc64: migrate common PCI " Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:52 ` [PATCH 24/42]: ppc64: PCI Error Recovery: PPC64 core recovery routines Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:53 ` [PATCH 25/42]: ppc64: Split out PCI address cache to its own file Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:53 ` [PATCH 26/42]: ppc64: Add "partion endpoint" support Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:53 ` [PATCH 27/42]: SCSI: add PCI error recovery to IPR dev driver Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:53 ` [PATCH 28/42]: SCSI: add PCI error recovery to Symbios " Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:53 ` [PATCH 29/42]: ethernet: add PCI error recovery to e100 " Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  1:34   ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-11-04  1:51     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 30/42]: ethernet: add PCI error recovery to e1000 " Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 31/42]: ethernet: add PCI error recovery to ixgb " Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 32/42]: RFC: Add compile-time config options Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 33/42]: ppc64: remove bogus printk Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 34/42]: ppc64: Remove duplicate code Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 35/42]: ppc64: bugfix: fill in un-initialzed field Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 36/42]: ppc64: Use PE configuration address consistently Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 37/42]: ppc64: set up the RTAS token just like the rest of them Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:54 ` [PATCH 38/42]: ppc64: Don't continue with PCI Error recovery if slot reset failed Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:55 ` [PATCH 39/42]: ppc64: handle multifunction PCI devices properly Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:55 ` [PATCH 40/42]: ppc64: IOMMU: don't ioremap null pointers Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:55 ` [PATCH 41/42]: ppc64: Save device BARS much earlier in the boot sequence Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04 22:14   ` linas
2005-11-04  0:55 ` [PATCH 42/42]: ppc64: get rid of per_cpu counters Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04  0:57 ` [PATCH 11/42]: ppc64: move code to powerpc directory from ppc64 Linas Vepstas
2005-11-04 22:14 ` [PATCH 0/42] PCI Error Recovery for PPC64 and misc device drivers Greg KH
2005-11-05  0:08   ` Paul Mackerras
2005-11-05  0:28     ` Greg KH
2005-11-05  0:46       ` Paul Mackerras
2005-11-05  1:28         ` Greg KH

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