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From: Ian Kumlien <pomac@vapor.com>
To: Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: fawadlateef@gmail.com, s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk,
	hostmaster@ed-soft.at, jerome.lacoste@gmail.com,
	carlsj@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: New Linux Development Model
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:47:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1131500868.2413.63.camel@localhost> (raw)

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Hi, posting from the outside so, no nice quotes and stuff.

Anyways, I was also miffed that the kernel folks merged a 'ancient'
version of ipw2200 and ieee802.11, if they had merged something more
current everything would have worked out of the box and all the cleanups
would have been easier to cope with. Ie, the intel ppl could release
straight patches to the in kernel version. I dunno if they have changed
the way their driver works now.

Atm, the 'ancient' ieee802.11 is what breaks the ipw2200 build. So,
basically all testing of cutting edge kernels gets very tedious due to
the ieee802.11 package removing the offending .h file and making
reversing -gitX and applying -gitY a real PITA.

Also, I dunno if it says what version of the firmware it should have...

Anyways, current state of ipw2200 is sad, and ieee802.11 is more
developed out of tree. So imho at least ieee802.11 should be merged more
closely and then generalized if needed (i think i saw some patches like
that) and preferably ipw2200 should be merged as well.

This b0rkage has actually kept me from using wlan AND testing kernel.org
kernels.

PS. Above, wrt merging, i assume that the API isn't quite 'stable' and
that changing any drivers using them should be simple and
straightforward.

stable as in, used all over and require major rewrites to change =)
DS.

PPS. Why merge a outdated version of a driver/protocol/thingy at all?
DS.

-- 
Ian Kumlien <pomac () vapor ! com> -- http://pomac.netswarm.net

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             reply	other threads:[~2005-11-09  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-09  1:47 Ian Kumlien [this message]
2005-11-09 11:08 ` New Linux Development Model Marcos Marado
2005-11-09 11:30   ` Ian Kumlien
2005-11-09 12:03     ` Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:03:07 +0100
2005-11-09 15:49       ` Ian Kumlien
2005-11-09 15:58         ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 16:32           ` Ian Kumlien
2005-11-09 12:37     ` Marcos Marado
2005-11-09 16:01       ` Ian Kumlien
2005-11-10  0:55         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-10 15:10           ` Mark Lord
2005-11-10 19:29             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-10 19:47               ` Ian Kumlien
2005-11-09 19:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-09 20:10     ` Marcos Marado
2005-11-10  0:57       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-10 20:08         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-10 20:21           ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-12 13:45       ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-05  9:42 hostmaster
2005-11-05 10:29 ` Francois Romieu
2005-11-05 11:29 ` Jean Delvare
2005-11-05 13:19   ` Edgar Hucek
2005-11-05 13:44     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-05 13:47     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-05 22:23       ` Mark Lord
2005-11-06  0:28         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-05 14:34     ` Jesper Juhl
2005-11-05 14:48       ` Oliver Neukum
2005-11-05 14:56         ` Fawad Lateef
2005-11-05 15:28         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-06 10:52     ` jerome lacoste
2005-11-06 11:55       ` Edgar Hucek
2005-11-06 12:39         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-06 12:57         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-06 17:38         ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]       ` <436DEEFC.4020301@ed-soft.at>
2005-11-06 13:43         ` jerome lacoste
2005-11-09  0:11           ` caszonyi
2005-11-09  0:23             ` Con Kolivas
2005-11-09  7:00               ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-09 12:30             ` jerome lacoste
2005-11-09 14:03               ` caszonyi
2005-11-09 15:45                 ` Marcos Marado
2005-11-06 16:50       ` John Carlson
2005-11-06 18:17     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-09  0:16       ` caszonyi
2005-11-06 15:22 ` Jim Nance
2005-11-06 16:55   ` John Carlson

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