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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	ganzinger@mvista.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Calibration issues with USB disc present.
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:58:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1131998339.4668.16.camel@leatherman> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051114184940.GA876@kroah.com>

On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 10:49 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 10:56:05AM -0800, George Anzinger wrote:
> > Greg KH wrote:
> > >On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 08:06:37AM -0800, George Anzinger wrote:
> > >>Greg KH wrote:
> > >On these boxes, I'd just recommend disabling USB legacy support
> > >completly, if possible.  And then complain loudly to the vendor to fix
> > >their BIOS.
> > 
> > But if one is booting from that device...
> 
> Booting from a USB device?  I can see this happening when installing a
> distro, and you boot from the USB cdrom, but not for "normal"
> operations.
> 
> Oh well, publicly mock the manufacturer for doing horrible things in
> their BIOS and then no one will buy the boxes, and we will not have
> problems :)

I suspect the right fix is in-between. We should try to push hardware
makers away from using SMIs recklessly, but we should also do our best
to work around those that don't. The same problems crop up w/
virtualization where time-based calibration may be interrupted.

George, again, there has been some SMI resistant delay calibration code
added recently. You mentioned this problem was seen on 2.4 kernel, so
you could verify that the new code in 2.6.14 works and if so, try
backporting it.

If not we need to see what else we can do about improving delay
calibration (its a similar tick-based problem to what I'm addressing
with the timeofday rework) or reducing the use of delay by using
something else.

thanks
-john



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-14 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-11 21:37 Calibration issues with USB disc present George Anzinger
2005-11-11 21:57 ` john stultz
2005-11-12  5:05   ` Greg KH
2005-11-12 16:06     ` George Anzinger
2005-11-12 21:33       ` Greg KH
2005-11-14 18:56         ` George Anzinger
2005-11-14 18:49           ` Greg KH
2005-11-14 19:46             ` Brad Campbell
2005-11-14 19:43               ` Greg KH
2005-11-14 19:58             ` john stultz [this message]
2005-11-14 21:52               ` George Anzinger
2005-11-17  0:03                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2005-11-17  0:30                   ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 17:43                     ` Max Krasnyansky

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