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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:34:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132623268.20233.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21d7e9970511211647r4df761a2l287715368bf89eb6@mail.gmail.com>

On Maw, 2005-11-22 at 11:47 +1100, Dave Airlie wrote:
> And funny enough unlike SCSI adapters and things for large server
> installations, nobody seems to really care enough about graphics
> cards, I've heard horror stories about how little Linux companies

Its easy to see why

The graphics market between Nvidia and ATI is extreme rivalry
There have been some ugly patent lawsuits
Good software tricks can make the weaker hardware win
Its very hard to write

So there are real secrets left in the market. Designing a SCSI
controller isn't exactly a McJob but its commodity.


Nvidia are at least trying to do what they can within what for them is
not a very easy set of market conditions for open sourcing. ATI were
doing very nice things until they won the Xbox 360 contract. An
observation that perhaps would not go amiss reaching the US legal
watchdogs.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-21 22:53 [RFC] Small PCI core patch Greg KH
2005-11-21 23:01 ` Greg KH
2005-11-21 23:35   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22  0:47     ` Dave Airlie
2005-11-22  1:34       ` Alan Cox [this message]
2005-11-22  2:20         ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22  2:36           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22  3:01             ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22  7:41           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22  8:44             ` Dave Airlie
2005-11-22  2:27         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22  3:23           ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22  3:44             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22  4:11             ` Neil Brown
2005-11-22  8:07               ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-11-22 14:30                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:33                   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22 16:38                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 10:58               ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-22 19:28               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-23 15:46                 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-11-24  2:11                   ` Lee Revell
2005-11-22 15:46             ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 15:51               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:14                 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 16:25                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:40                     ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 16:56                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 17:11                         ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 17:37                         ` Brian Gerst
2005-11-22 17:38                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 19:39                           ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-23 10:51                         ` Rogério Brito
2005-11-23 14:29                           ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 18:38                       ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 19:47                         ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 16:26                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22 16:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 19:49                       ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22 20:08                         ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 20:15                           ` Lee Revell
2005-11-22 20:43                           ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22 22:00                             ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 22:42                       ` Jan Knutar
2005-11-22 14:07           ` Marc Koschewski
2005-11-22 22:53             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 23:06               ` Marc Koschewski
2005-11-22 23:20                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 14:25           ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 14:26             ` today's graphics (was Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch) Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 18:58               ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 18:41                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22  1:21     ` [RFC] Small PCI core patch Greg KH
2005-11-22  1:28     ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-11-22  1:42       ` Greg KH
2005-11-22  5:50     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-22 14:36       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:54     ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22 20:17       ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 21:13         ` Brian Gerst
2005-11-22 23:26           ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 22:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22  6:57   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22 18:26   ` Matthieu CASTET
2005-11-22 19:05     ` Greg KH
2005-11-22 20:15     ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23  3:26       ` Andrew James Wade
2005-11-21 23:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-21 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 17:50 ` Greg KH
2005-11-22 22:31   ` Harald Dunkel
2005-11-22 23:40     ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23  6:06       ` Harald Dunkel
2005-11-23  6:26         ` Dave Jones
2005-11-23 11:11           ` Alan Cox
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     [not found]   ` <5btqF-66n-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]       ` <5bHtG-228-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-11-25  4:06         ` Robert Hancock
2005-11-25  6:34           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-25 13:54           ` Alan Cox

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