From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Vinay Venkataraghavan <raghavanvinay@yahoo.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: copy_from_user/copy_to_user question
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:02:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1133575346.4894.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051203013833.GG27946@ftp.linux.org.uk>
On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 01:38 +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:09:59PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > Secondly, they seem to use memcpy as opposed to using
> > > copy_to_user/copy_from_user which is also very
> > > dangerous.
> >
> > If they are grabbing data from user context into kernel (or vise versa)
> > that could easily cause an oops. Not to mention it is a security risk.
>
> Not to mention it simply won't work on a many platforms, no matter what...
Hmm, I've only worked with a few platforms (i386, x86_64, ppc, mips, and
a little arm but I don't remember that much). I believe that a memcpy
could work on all these platforms (error prone of course, but if the
memory is mapped its OK). When entering a system call, the kernel still
has access to the memory locations assigned to the user.
It's been a while since I had to deal with the semantics of
copy_to/from_user. So what platforms can not access a user space area
directly. Is there a special assembly command to use to copy from user?
I haven't dealt (yet) with the copy_user of x86_64. Is there a problem
when one tries to copy to/from a 32 bit address while in a 64 bit
address space?
Just curious, sorry for my ignorance here.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-03 2:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-02 22:40 copy_from_user/copy_to_user question Vinay Venkataraghavan
2005-12-03 1:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 1:38 ` Al Viro
2005-12-03 2:02 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-12-03 2:11 ` Vinay Venkataraghavan
2005-12-03 2:22 ` Vinay Venkataraghavan
2005-12-03 2:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 8:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-03 9:43 ` Heiko Carstens
2005-12-03 12:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 22:33 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-05 13:31 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
[not found] <5fv0G-3kS-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <5fvam-3vP-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-12-03 2:47 ` Robert Hancock
2005-12-03 3:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 3:33 ` Robert Hancock
2005-12-03 4:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-03 22:35 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-03 18:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 17:53 ` Vinay Venkataraghavan
2005-12-06 17:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-06 18:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 18:23 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-06 18:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-06 19:58 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-06 20:05 ` Vinay Venkataraghavan
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