From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"SERGE E. HALLYN [imap]" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:09:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1133978996.24344.42.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133978128.2869.51.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 18:55 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > Many of the interesting places that deal with pids and where you
> > > want translation are not where the values are read from current->pid,
> > > but where the values are passed between functions. Think about
> > > the return value of do_fork.
> >
> > Exactly. The next phase will focus on such places. Hubertus has some
> > stuff working that's probably not ready for LKML, but could certainly be
> > shared.
>
> hmm wonder if it's not just a lot simpler to introduce a split in
> "kernel pid" and "userspace pid", and have current->pid and
> current->user_pid for that.
>
> Using accessor macros doesn't sound like it gains much here.. (but then
> I've not seen the full picture and you have)
My first instinct was to introduce functions like get_user_pid() and
get_kernel_pid() which would effectively introduce the same split.
Doing that, we could keep from even referencing ->user_pid in normal
code, and keep things small and simpler for people like the embedded
folks.
For the particular application that we're thinking of, we really don't
want "user pid" and "kernel pid" we want "virtualized" and
"unvirtualized", or "regular old pid" and "fancy new virtualized pid".
So, like in the global pidspace (which can see all pids and appears to
applications to be just like normal) you end up returning "kernel" pids
to userspace. That didn't seem to make sense.
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-07 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-14 21:23 [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 01/13] Change pid accesses: drivers Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 02/13] Change pid accesses: most archs Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 03/13] Change pid accesses: filesystems Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 04/13] Change pid accesses: include/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 05/13] Change pid accesses: ipc Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 06/13] Change pid accesses: kernel/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 07/13] Change pid accesses: lib/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 08/13] Change pid accesses: mm/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 09/13] Change pid accesses: net/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 10/13] Change pid accesses: security/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 11/13] Change pid accesses: sound/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 12/13] Change pid accesses: ia64 and mips Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 23:08 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-16 11:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-16 13:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 13/13] Define new task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 23:36 ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 1:01 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 1:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 1:51 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 2:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 3:37 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 5:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 6:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 8:11 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 9:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 10:07 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 18:10 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 11:59 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 13:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 14:37 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 18:39 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 18:54 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 19:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 19:17 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 22:11 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 23:15 ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-15 23:28 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 16:47 ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 17:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 17:33 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 5:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-13 15:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:36 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-16 20:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 20:48 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-19 23:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 22:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 14:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-20 23:29 ` Nix
2005-11-16 21:07 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-16 20:24 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 13:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 11:17 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 12:01 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 19:21 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 19:41 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 20:30 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 21:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 22:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 22:55 ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-16 1:12 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-07 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 17:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:09 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2005-12-07 19:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 22:13 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-12 10:55 ` Dave Airlie
2005-12-19 14:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 21:40 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-14 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 13:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-14 16:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 22:31 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-08 5:42 ` Jeff Dike
2005-12-08 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-07 22:17 ` Cedric Le Goater
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2005-11-16 2:24 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-11-16 17:52 ` Bernard Blackham
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