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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: 7eggert@gmx.de
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alex Davis <alex14641@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] i386: always use 4k stacks
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1134761158.18119.9.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EnDOo-0006Gd-Na@be1.lrz>

On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 12:05 +0100, Bodo Eggert wrote:
> Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> > Enough already!  These concerns have been raised already, and found
> > to be insufficient.  There are several points:
> > 
> > 1)    ndiswrapper is broken already, and works sheerly by luck anyways;
> > NT stacks are 12kb, so you're already asking for stack overflows by
> > using it.
> > 2)    ndiswrapper encourages use of binary drivers instead of the open-
> > source ones that need the testers, so you're only hurting yourselves
> > in the long run.
> 
> ACK. So where is the driver for the Netgear WG511 Softmac card I'm supposed
> to test? I bought this card because it was labled as being supported, and it
> turned out that it wasn't, and just nobody cared to update the list of
> supported cards with the warning about the unsupported variant.

Um, this is not the developers fault.  Do you think the vendors call the
driver developers to tell them "hey, we just released a new product,
with a name confusingly similar to the one your driver supports, but we
changed the chipset a tiny bit so it won't work with your driver"?
Dream on.

Driver developers are not psychic.  If no USER reported that the new
FooBar1002X is completely different from the FooBar1002, there's no way
for us to know.  Sorry you were unfortunate enough to be the first user
to learn the hard way.  Complain to the vendor not LKML.

Lee


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-16 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 273+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-12-16 11:05   ` [2.6 patch] i386: always use 4k stacks Bodo Eggert
2005-12-16 12:22     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-12-16 18:08     ` Dave Jones
2005-12-17 10:26       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-12-16 19:25     ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-12-17  3:47       ` Bodo Eggert
2006-02-11 23:26 Joshua Hudson
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     [not found] ` <5lQOU-492-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-12-23 10:12   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-12-23 10:29     ` Eric Dumazet
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2005-12-23 10:44       ` Sean
2005-12-23 13:59     ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-23 23:08     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-24  1:06     ` Horst von Brand
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2005-12-20 19:53 Parag Warudkar
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2005-12-20 20:03     ` Sean
2005-12-20 20:27 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-20 22:08 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-20 19:08 Parag Warudkar
2005-12-20 19:25 ` David Lang
2005-12-20 21:37 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-18 10:49 Stefan Rompf
2005-12-18 12:06 ` Alan Cox
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2005-12-18  5:57               ` Bodo Eggert
2005-12-18 12:28                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 13:44                   ` Michael Poole
2005-12-18 14:12                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-17  6:53 Alex Davis
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2005-12-17  0:17 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-18 23:10   ` Neil Brown
2005-12-16 15:36 Matt Reuther
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2005-12-16  8:48 ` Alex Davis
2005-12-16  9:38   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16 14:45     ` Alex Davis
2005-12-16 15:11       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16  5:20 Alex Davis
2005-12-16  5:29 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16  6:16   ` Alex Davis
2005-12-16  7:41     ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-16  7:43     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16  7:53     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16  8:02     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-27 21:03     ` David Weinehall
2005-12-27 22:26       ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16  8:10 ` Matt Domsch
2005-12-15 21:24 Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 22:00 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-15 20:42   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 22:30   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 21:07     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:14       ` Lee Revell
2005-12-15 21:46         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:26           ` Lee Revell
2005-12-15 22:04             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:36               ` Ismail Donmez
2005-12-16  0:08               ` Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:08:02 +0100
2005-12-15 22:51                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-16  0:57                 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16  0:38               ` Alan Cox
2005-12-16 14:39             ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-16 14:49               ` Xavier Bestel
2005-12-16 15:01               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 18:42               ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-16 18:53                 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-16 18:53                 ` Brian Gerst
2005-12-16 19:02                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 19:14                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-16 18:55                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-17  0:16                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-19  9:40                     ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-16 19:26                 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-16 21:08                   ` David Lang
2005-12-16 21:35                     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-19  9:02               ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-16  0:37         ` Ray Lee
2005-12-19  8:55           ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-15 23:15     ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16  0:47       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16  0:50         ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16  2:56           ` Neil Brown
2005-12-16  3:06             ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 12:18             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 19:03               ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-19  0:45               ` Neil Brown
2005-12-19  1:34                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-19 11:40                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-12-16  1:15         ` Nathan Scott
2005-12-16  1:37           ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16  1:49     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-16 14:12       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 13:10   ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-16 14:04     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 15:35       ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-16 15:49         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16 16:23           ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16 20:02             ` Alan Cox
2005-12-16 20:08               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 18:18           ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-12-16 18:36             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 19:32               ` Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 19:46                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 21:28                   ` Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 21:49                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 21:50                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 22:14                       ` Dave Jones
2005-12-17 17:44           ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-17 20:16             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-17 20:23               ` Paul Rolland
2005-12-17 20:47                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-17 20:52             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18  2:35               ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18  5:03               ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18  5:43                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18  6:05                   ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 15:51                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 15:59                       ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 11:09                     ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-19 16:22                       ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 17:43                         ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-19 19:10                           ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 19:27                             ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-19 20:17                               ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 20:34                                 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-20  1:24                                   ` Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:24:16 +0100
2005-12-20 14:28                                 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-20 17:56                                   ` David Lang
2005-12-20 18:09                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20 18:49                                       ` David Lang
2005-12-21 11:12                                       ` Sander
2005-12-21 20:03                                         ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-12-20 18:12                                     ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-12-20 18:12                                       ` Sean
2005-12-20 18:23                                     ` Dave Jones
2005-12-20 12:58                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 14:35                             ` Felix Oxley
2005-12-18 15:44                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 12:09                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 15:49                   ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 15:57                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 16:04                       ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-16 15:58         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 16:46     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-11 18:05 Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 22:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-12-15 23:12   ` Ismail Donmez
2005-12-16  3:51     ` Puneet Vyas
2005-12-16  7:55       ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-19  9:27         ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-19  9:27       ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-15 23:13   ` Lee Revell
2005-12-16  0:36   ` Alan Cox
2005-12-05 21:45 Alex Davis
2005-12-05 23:45 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-05 21:35 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-30 13:16 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-23 22:34 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-17 12:31 Kenneth Parrish
2005-11-17 12:17 Kenneth Parrish
2005-11-30 10:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-30 11:49   ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-16  2:03 Kenneth Parrish
2005-11-16 18:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-15 23:41 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:41:11 +0100
2005-11-15 23:56 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-11-16  6:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16  9:04 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-16 18:34   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-16 20:38   ` Krzysztof Halasa
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2005-11-15  4:08                 ` Robert Hancock
2005-11-15  3:56                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-15  4:31                     ` Robert Hancock
2005-11-15  4:11                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-15  9:31                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-15  9:45                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 16:36                           ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2005-11-15 19:49                             ` Meelis Roos
2005-11-15 16:39                           ` Cal Peake
2005-11-17 19:32                     ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-11-18 13:06                   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-11-18 18:37                     ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-11-15  1:02         ` Robert Hancock
2005-11-15  2:07           ` Lee Revell
2005-11-15  2:22             ` Robert Hancock
2005-11-15  3:27             ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-15  3:28             ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15  3:26               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-15  5:06                 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15  6:19                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-15  6:52                     ` Neil Brown
2005-11-15  6:47                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-15 13:18                         ` Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:18:51 +0100
2005-11-15 13:24                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 16:46                             ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-15 18:55                               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-15 22:27                                 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-15 23:20                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-18 11:40                                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-11-18 19:51                                     ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-18 23:32                                     ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-17 19:25                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-17 21:34                                   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-19  1:33                                 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-19  2:02                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-11-19  2:43                                     ` Rob Landley
2005-11-19  3:22                                       ` Lee Revell
2005-11-19  3:38                                         ` Rob Landley
2005-11-19  5:26                                           ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 14:11                               ` Rob Landley
2005-11-18 19:27                     ` Alan Cox
2005-11-18 20:05                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-14 13:38 Alex Davis
2005-11-14 14:49 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-14 18:02   ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-14 18:12     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 18:18     ` Dave Jones
2005-11-14 18:22       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-14 18:29         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 18:38           ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-14 19:17           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-14 19:28             ` Michael Buesch
2005-11-14 21:16               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-14 20:27     ` Alan Cox
2005-11-16  0:50       ` Alex Davis
2005-11-16  4:05         ` Cal Peake
2005-11-16  8:03         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16  8:34           ` Oliver Neukum
2005-11-16  9:19             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-16 10:18           ` Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:18:12 +0100
2005-11-16 10:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16 12:57               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-16 13:51                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-16 14:42                   ` jmerkey
2005-11-16 15:18                     ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-16 15:30                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-11-16 15:38                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16 16:10                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-16 18:45                           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-16 19:03                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-11-16 19:08                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-16 20:46                               ` Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:46:05 +0100
2005-11-17  2:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-17  0:06                             ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-16 22:50                               ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2005-11-16 22:54                                 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2005-11-17  0:28                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-17  4:06                                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-17  0:31                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-17  4:05                                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-14 18:29   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-14 19:00     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-14 19:18       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-11-14 19:47         ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-14 22:33     ` Alan Cox
2005-11-14 22:14       ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-15 15:12     ` Paulo Marques
2005-11-15  1:09   ` Alex Davis
2005-11-14  2:11 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-14  7:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 10:20 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-11-14 10:31   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 10:39     ` Pierre Ossman
2005-11-14 11:11     ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-14 11:19       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 11:24         ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-14 11:27           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 11:34             ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-14 11:53               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 12:00                 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-11-14 12:04                 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-14 12:58                   ` Alan Cox
2005-11-15  0:32                   ` Mike Christie
2005-11-15  0:55                     ` Mike Christie
2005-11-15  0:58                     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-15  2:42                       ` Mike Christie

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