From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932187AbVLTWOF (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:14:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932189AbVLTWOE (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:14:04 -0500 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:1486 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932187AbVLTWOC (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:14:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c From: Lee Revell To: Linus Torvalds Cc: James Courtier-Dutton , Adrian Bunk , Sergey Vlasov , Ricardo Cerqueira , mchehab@brturbo.com.br, Linux Kernel Mailing List , video4linux-list@redhat.com, perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org In-Reply-To: References: <20051220131810.GB6789@stusta.de> <20051220155216.GA19797@master.mivlgu.local> <20051220191412.GA4578@stusta.de> <43A86B20.1090104@superbug.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: <1135117067.27101.5.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 13:03 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Forcing (or even just encouraging) people to use loadable modules is > just horrible. I personally run a kernel with no modules at all: it > makes for a simpler bootup, and in some situations (embedded) it has > both security and size advantages. With modules it's possible to test a new ALSA version without recompiling the kernel or even rebooting. Encouraging people to build it into the kernel would create a problematic barrier to entry for debugging. With the amount of poorly documented hardware we support, it's essential for preventing driver regressions for users to be able to easily test the latest ALSA version. Lee