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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, zippel@linux-m68k.org, hch@infradead.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@osdl.org, arjanv@infradead.org, nico@cam.org,
	jes@trained-monkey.org, zwane@arm.linux.org.uk, oleg@tv-sign.ru,
	dhowells@redhat.com, bcrl@kvack.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	ak@suse.de, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:44:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1135619093.8293.43.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20051226175652.00be31b8@pop.gmx.net>

On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 18:15 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> At 03:11 AM 12/26/2005 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > hm.  16 CPUs hitting the same semaphore at great arrival rates.  The cost
> > > > of a short spin is much less than the cost of a sleep/wakeup.  The 
> > machine
> > > > was doing 100,000 - 200,000 context switches per second.
> > >
> > > interesting.. this might be a good indication that a "spin a bit first"
> > > mutex slowpath for some locks might be worth implementing...
> >
> >If we see a workload which is triggering such high context switch rates,
> >maybe.  But I don't think we've seen any such for a long time.
> 
> Hmm.  Is there a real workload where such a high context switch rate is 
> necessary?  Every time I've seen a high (100,000 - 200,000 is beyond absurd 
> on my little box, but...) context switch rate, it's been because something 
> sucked.

I can trivially produce 20K per second on my little sub Ghz box so 100K
on a busy server is certainly plausible.  Especially if for the purposes
of this discussion we are also worried about -rt + IRQ threading where
each IRQ costs two context switches (more if it raises a softirq).

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-26 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-22 11:41 [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 11:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 12:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 15:34   ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 15:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 16:32       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 16:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 16:58           ` Russell King
2005-12-22 21:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 21:26               ` Russell King
2005-12-22 21:27               ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:37                 ` [patch 1/2] mutex subsystem: basic per arch fast path primitives Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:53                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 21:40                 ` [patch 2/2] mutex subsystem: use the per architecture fast path lock_unlock defines Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:54                 ` [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 16:58           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 17:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 17:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-22 18:24       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 11:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 12:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 13:07     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 13:23       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-22 13:44         ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 14:11           ` Alan Cox
2005-12-22 23:30             ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 23:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <32801.10.10.10.28.1135295357.squirrel@linux1>
2005-12-22 23:49                   ` Sean
2005-12-22 23:53                     ` Randy.Dunlap
     [not found]                       ` <50572.10.10.10.28.1135296023.squirrel@linux1>
2005-12-23  0:00                         ` Sean
2005-12-23  0:00                       ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]                 ` <20051222221311.2f6056ec.akpm@osdl.org>
2005-12-23 14:24                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-23 14:51                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-23 14:57                       ` Russell King
2005-12-23 15:04                         ` Xavier Bestel
2005-12-23 15:27                           ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-23 15:00                       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-03 17:54                       ` Abhijit Bhopatkar
2005-12-25 16:08                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-25 22:54                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-26 21:49                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-25 23:04                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-25 23:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-26 10:35                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-26 10:42                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-26 11:11                           ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-26 17:15                             ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-26 17:44                               ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-12-27  0:32                             ` David Lang
2005-12-26 18:15                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-27 14:42                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 23:02                           ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-26  0:33                     ` Moore's law (was Re: [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4) Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 15:30                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-05 19:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26 15:29                     ` [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4 Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 15:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-22 17:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-22 20:09               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-22 17:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 15:19       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:43       ` Paul Mackerras

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