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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Roger Heflin <rheflin@atipa.com>,
	"'linux-kernel'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Dual core Athlons and unsynced TSCs
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:47:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1137174463.15108.4.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1137168254.7241.32.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 11:04 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 09:10 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote:
> >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org 
> > > [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Lee Revell
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:18 PM
> > > To: linux-kernel
> > > Subject: Dual core Athlons and unsynced TSCs
> > > 
> > > It's been known for quite some time that the TSCs are not 
> > > synced between cores on Athlon X2 machines and this screws up 
> > > the kernel's timekeeping, as it still uses the TSC as the 
> > > default time source on these machines.
> > > 
> > > This problem still seems to be present in the latest kernels. 
> > >  What is the plan to fix it?  Is the fix simply to make the 
> > > kernel use the ACPI PM timer by default on Athlon X2?
> > 
> > 
> > Do we know if this also affects dual-core opterons?
> > 
> > The symptoms are that the clocks run at 2x the speed, correct?
> 
> No, worse.  The monotonic clock can go backwards.  The tscs of the CPUs
> are not in sync when one slows down due to idle.  So if you read from
> two different CPUs, you may get the second read have an earlier time
> than the first.  Breaks the rule of what a monotonic clock is.
> 

Steve,

I don't have hardware to test this, can you confirm that the only
workaround needed is to boot with "clock=pmtmr"?

Lee



  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-13 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-12 22:17 Dual core Athlons and unsynced TSCs Lee Revell
2006-01-13 15:10 ` Roger Heflin
2006-01-13 16:04   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 17:47     ` Lee Revell [this message]
2006-01-13 17:52       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 17:54         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 18:41           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 18:55             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:09               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 20:26                 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 20:40                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:43                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:46                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-13 20:48                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:51                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-13 20:52                         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 21:05                       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 21:10                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-13 21:17                           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-16  9:52                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-16 15:55                               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14  0:23                 ` john stultz
2006-01-14  1:10                   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14  1:14                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-14  1:23                       ` john stultz
2006-01-14  1:27                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-14  1:39                           ` john stultz
2006-01-14  1:43                             ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14  1:50                               ` john stultz
2006-01-14  2:15                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14  2:34                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-16  1:19                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-14  6:54               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-01-13 18:06 ` thockin
2006-01-13 17:58   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 18:16     ` thockin
2006-01-13 18:09       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 18:55         ` thockin
2006-01-13 18:56           ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-01-13 19:00             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 19:07               ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-01-13 21:18               ` David Lang
2006-01-13 21:56                 ` thockin
2006-01-13 22:05                   ` David Lang
2006-01-13 22:18                     ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-01-13 22:49                       ` David Lang
2006-01-14  0:41                         ` Andreas Steinmetz
2006-01-14  1:04                           ` David Lang
2006-01-14  1:21                             ` Andreas Steinmetz
2006-01-14  1:51                               ` thockin
2006-01-15  8:52                             ` Zan Lynx
2006-01-15 16:25                               ` thockin
2006-01-15 16:33                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-15 18:21                                   ` thockin
2006-01-15 18:29                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-15 18:49                                       ` thockin
2006-01-14  1:13                           ` thockin
2006-01-13 22:23                     ` thockin
2006-01-13 19:13             ` Xavier Bestel
2006-01-13 19:32             ` thockin
2006-01-13 20:58               ` Steven Rostedt
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2006-01-14  0:24               ` Robert Hancock

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