From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Roger Heflin <rheflin@atipa.com>,
"'linux-kernel'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Dual core Athlons and unsynced TSCs
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:47:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1137174463.15108.4.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1137168254.7241.32.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 11:04 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 09:10 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
> > > [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Lee Revell
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:18 PM
> > > To: linux-kernel
> > > Subject: Dual core Athlons and unsynced TSCs
> > >
> > > It's been known for quite some time that the TSCs are not
> > > synced between cores on Athlon X2 machines and this screws up
> > > the kernel's timekeeping, as it still uses the TSC as the
> > > default time source on these machines.
> > >
> > > This problem still seems to be present in the latest kernels.
> > > What is the plan to fix it? Is the fix simply to make the
> > > kernel use the ACPI PM timer by default on Athlon X2?
> >
> >
> > Do we know if this also affects dual-core opterons?
> >
> > The symptoms are that the clocks run at 2x the speed, correct?
>
> No, worse. The monotonic clock can go backwards. The tscs of the CPUs
> are not in sync when one slows down due to idle. So if you read from
> two different CPUs, you may get the second read have an earlier time
> than the first. Breaks the rule of what a monotonic clock is.
>
Steve,
I don't have hardware to test this, can you confirm that the only
workaround needed is to boot with "clock=pmtmr"?
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-13 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-12 22:17 Dual core Athlons and unsynced TSCs Lee Revell
2006-01-13 15:10 ` Roger Heflin
2006-01-13 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 17:47 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2006-01-13 17:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 17:54 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 18:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 18:55 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 20:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 20:40 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:43 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-13 20:48 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 20:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-13 20:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 21:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-13 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-13 21:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-16 9:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-01-16 15:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14 0:23 ` john stultz
2006-01-14 1:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14 1:14 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-14 1:23 ` john stultz
2006-01-14 1:27 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-14 1:39 ` john stultz
2006-01-14 1:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14 1:50 ` john stultz
2006-01-14 2:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-14 2:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-16 1:19 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-14 6:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-01-13 18:06 ` thockin
2006-01-13 17:58 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 18:16 ` thockin
2006-01-13 18:09 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 18:55 ` thockin
2006-01-13 18:56 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-01-13 19:00 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 19:07 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-01-13 21:18 ` David Lang
2006-01-13 21:56 ` thockin
2006-01-13 22:05 ` David Lang
2006-01-13 22:18 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-01-13 22:49 ` David Lang
2006-01-14 0:41 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2006-01-14 1:04 ` David Lang
2006-01-14 1:21 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2006-01-14 1:51 ` thockin
2006-01-15 8:52 ` Zan Lynx
2006-01-15 16:25 ` thockin
2006-01-15 16:33 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-15 18:21 ` thockin
2006-01-15 18:29 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-15 18:49 ` thockin
2006-01-14 1:13 ` thockin
2006-01-13 22:23 ` thockin
2006-01-13 19:13 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-01-13 19:32 ` thockin
2006-01-13 20:58 ` Steven Rostedt
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2006-01-14 0:24 ` Robert Hancock
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