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From: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
To: Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hugh@veritas.com,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, blaisorblade@yahoo.it,
	jdike@addtoit.com
Subject: Re: differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:04:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1137459847.2842.6.camel@entropy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43CC3922.2070205@FreeBSD.org>

On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 16:24 -0800, Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > As I recall the logic with DONTNEED was to mark the mapping of
> > the page clean so the page didn't need to be swapped out, it could
> > just be dropped.
> > 
> > That is why they anonymous and the file backed cases differ.
> > 
> > Part of the point is to avoid the case of swapping the pages out if
> > the application doesn't care what is on them anymore.
> 
> Well, imho, MADV_DONTNEED should mean "I won't need this anytime soon", 
> and MADV_FREE "I will never need this again".
> 

POSIX doesn't have a madvise(), but it does have a posix_madvise(), with
flags defined as follows:

POSIX_MADV_NORMAL
   Specifies that the application has no advice to give on its behavior
with respect to the specified range. It is the default characteristic if
no advice is given for a range of memory.
POSIX_MADV_SEQUENTIAL
   Specifies that the application expects to access the specified range
sequentially from lower addresses to higher addresses.
POSIX_MADV_RANDOM
   Specifies that the application expects to access the specified range
in a random order.
POSIX_MADV_WILLNEED
   Specifies that the application expects to access the specified range
in the near future.
POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED
   Specifies that the application expects that it will not access the
specified range in the near future.

Note that glibc forwards posix_madvise() directly to madvise(2), which
means that right now, POSIX conformant apps which use
posix_madvise(addr, len, POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED) are silently corrupting
data on Linux systems.

-- 
Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>


  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-17  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-11-02  1:15               ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_FREE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02  1:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-02 15:49                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 16:12                   ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 19:54                     ` New bug in patch and existing Linux code - race with install_page() (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE)) Blaisorblade
2005-11-02 20:12                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 20:45                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 21:36                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 21:55                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 22:02                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  0:25                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  0:34                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  1:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  4:41                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-16 13:06                             ` differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 16:02                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 16:28                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 17:03                                   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 17:24                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 21:43                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17  0:24                                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-17  1:04                                           ` Nicholas Miell [this message]
2006-01-17 12:43                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-17 18:23                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17 22:55                                                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-01 18:11                                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2006-01-17 19:06                                               ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-17  1:06                               ` Blaisorblade
2006-01-17  1:33                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-12  0:34                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton

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