From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: dipankar@in.ibm.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: RCU latency regression in 2.6.16-rc1
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:38:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1138520283.2799.103.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43DBCB62.7030308@cosmosbay.com>
On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 20:52 +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > Your new trace shows that we are held up in in rt_run_flush().
> > I guess we need to investigate why we spend so much time in rt_run_flush(),
> > because of a big route table or the lock acquisitions.
>
> Some machines have millions of entries in their route cache.
>
> I suspect we cannot queue all them (or only hash heads as your
> previous patch) by RCU. Latencies and/or OOM can occur.
>
> What can be done is :
>
> in rt_run_flush(), allocate a new empty hash table, and exchange the
> hash tables.
>
> Then wait a quiescent/grace RCU period (may be the exact term is not
> this one, sorry, I'm not RCU expert)
>
> Then free all the entries from the old hash table (direclty of course,
> no need for RCU grace period), and free the hash table.
>
> As the hash table can be huge, we might need allocate it at boot time,
> just in case a flush is needed (it usually is :) ). If we choose
> dynamic allocation and this allocation fails, then fallback to what is
> done today.
>
No problem, I'm not a networking expert...
Ingo's response to these traces was that softirq preemption, which
simply offloads all softirq processing to softirqd and has been tested
in the -rt patchset for over a year, is the easiest solution. Any
thoughts on that? Personally, I'd rather fix the very few problematic
softirqs, than take such a drastic step - this softirq appears to be one
of the last obstacles to being able to meet a 1ms soft RT constraint
with the mainline kernel.
Thanks for looking at this; I'd be glad to test any patches...
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-29 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-24 7:52 RCU latency regression in 2.6.16-rc1 Lee Revell
2006-01-24 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-24 7:58 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-24 8:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-24 8:03 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-24 8:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-24 8:07 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-24 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-24 8:15 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-24 9:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-01-24 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-24 9:44 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-24 16:28 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-01-24 21:38 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-01-25 21:28 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 22:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-25 23:13 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 19:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-01-27 18:55 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-28 17:03 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-01-28 18:00 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-28 18:51 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-28 19:34 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-01-28 19:46 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-28 19:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-29 7:38 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2006-01-29 7:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-29 8:21 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-30 4:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-01-30 4:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30 5:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-01-30 5:52 ` David S. Miller
2006-01-30 10:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-02-12 0:45 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-24 16:57 ` Dipankar Sarma
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