From: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
davej@redhat.com, perex@suse.cz,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add kernel<->userspace ABI stability documentation
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:33:57 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141083237.3000.5.camel@entropy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060227210427.GU27946@ftp.linux.org.uk>
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 21:04 +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 12:20:49PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > They seem to be just excuses for bad habits. And the notion of a "private"
> > interface is insane anyway, since it doesn't matter - the only thing that
> > matters is whether it breaks existing binaries or not, and being "private"
> > in no way makes any difference to that. If you need to compile or link
> > against a new library, it's broken - whether it was "private" or not makes
> > no difference.
>
> gregkh is being polite - s/private/but-we-are-special/ and it will make
> more sense...
I agree with the criticism of the private interfaces, but unstable makes
sense in the new kernel development model world -- "testing" is "we're
pretty sure that this is done but it might not be and we might change it
in the future, so pay attention" while "unstable" is more of a "we think
the design is neat, but somebody is bound to find some way we've screwed
it up and it'll probably be changed in the future to fix it, so expect
your programs to break".
--
Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-27 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-27 19:01 [RFC] Add kernel<->userspace ABI stability documentation Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 19:11 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 19:22 ` Kumar Gala
2006-02-27 19:30 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 19:44 ` Greg KH
2006-03-01 13:53 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-03-01 14:10 ` Gabor Gombas
2006-03-01 14:35 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-03-01 16:30 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-02-27 20:06 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-27 19:35 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-27 19:49 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-27 20:00 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:13 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-28 0:26 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:36 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-27 19:46 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:01 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-27 20:13 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:22 ` John W. Linville
2006-02-27 22:00 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 22:58 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-27 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-27 21:04 ` Al Viro
2006-02-27 23:33 ` Nicholas Miell [this message]
2006-02-27 23:45 ` Greg KH
2006-02-28 1:52 ` Jason Lunz
2006-02-28 6:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-28 6:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01 0:34 ` Greg KH
2006-03-01 1:17 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-03-02 4:24 ` Greg KH
2006-03-05 16:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-05 23:23 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06 0:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-06 0:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06 2:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-07 3:56 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:52 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-02-27 19:57 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:05 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-02-27 20:12 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:15 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 22:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-28 0:11 ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:01 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-01 0:21 ` Greg KH
2006-02-28 11:39 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-03-01 0:23 ` Greg KH
2006-03-01 7:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-01 20:56 ` Greg KH
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-07 14:44 Al Boldi
2006-03-07 15:21 ` Josh Boyer
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