From: "Bryan O'Sullivan" <bos@pathscale.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Define wc_wmb, a write barrier for PCI write combining
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:20:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141240823.2899.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200602282033.48570.ak@suse.de>
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 20:33 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Anyways if MFENCE improved performance you're probably relying
> on some very specific artifact of the microarchitecture of your
> CPU or Northbridge. I don't think it's a architecurally guaranteed
> feature.
I looked this up, and you appear to be wrong here.
Here's the appropriate quote from page 246 of the PDF of "AMD64
Architecture Programmer's Manual Volume 2: System Programming":
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/dwamd_24593.pdf
Section 7.4.1 specifically describes what happens to write buffers:
[...] the processor completely empties the write buffer by
writing the contents to memory as a result of performing any of
the following operations:
SFENCE Instruction
Executing a store-fence (SFENCE) instruction forces all memory
writes before the SFENCE (in program order) to be written into
memory before memory writes that follow the SFENCE instruction.
The memory-fence (MFENCE) instruction has a similar effect, but
it forces the ordering of loads in addition to stores.
[...]
So in fact SFENCE is the appropriate, architecturally guaranteed, thing
for us to be doing on x86_64.
With respect to Ben's contention that wmb() will suffice instead, that
isn't true, either, even on x86-class hardware. The writes absolutely
travel over the HT bus in non-ascending order on AMD64 systems unless we
fence them, and we've verified this using a HT bus analyser.
<b
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-01 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-25 4:20 [PATCH] Define wc_wmb, a write barrier for PCI write combining Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-25 4:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 7:34 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-25 13:28 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 17:20 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-25 19:01 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 17:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-02-28 17:50 ` Roland Dreier
2006-02-28 17:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-02-28 17:52 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 17:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-02-25 14:28 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-25 17:11 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-25 17:41 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-28 17:50 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 17:58 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-28 18:20 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 19:03 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-28 19:20 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 19:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-28 19:44 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-01 19:20 ` Bryan O'Sullivan [this message]
2006-03-01 19:27 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-01 19:43 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-01 19:49 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-01 20:05 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-01 20:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-01 20:35 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 19:34 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-28 18:22 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-28 10:01 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Roland Dreier
2006-02-28 16:08 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-28 17:02 ` Roland Dreier
2006-02-28 17:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-02-28 17:20 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-03-01 8:16 ` Jeremy Higdon
2006-03-01 8:24 ` Jeremy Higdon
2006-02-28 17:11 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-02-28 17:57 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-28 18:07 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-02-28 18:24 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-03-01 10:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-03-01 17:04 ` Roland Dreier
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