From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, herbert@13thfloor.at,
devel@openvz.org, serue@us.ibm.com, akpm@osdl.org,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>, Stanislav Protassov <st@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Virtualization steps
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:07:38 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1143587258.6325.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44294B33.3040507@tmr.com>
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 09:41 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > It is more than realistic. Hosting companies run more than 100 VPSs in
> > reality. There are also other usefull scenarios. For example, I know
> > the universities which run VPS for every faculty web site, for every
> > department, mail server and so on. Why do you think they want to run
> > only 5VMs on one machine? Much more!
>
> I made no commont on what "they" might want, I want to make the rack of
> underutilized Windows, BSD and Solaris servers go away. An approach
> which doesn't support unmodified guest installs doesn't solve any of my
> current problems. I didn't say it was in any way not useful, just not of
> interest to me. What needs I have for Linux environments are answered by
> jails and/or UML.
We are talking about adding jail technology, also known as containers on
Solaris and vserver/openvz on Linux, to the mainline kernel.
So, you are obviously interested!
Because of course, you can take an unmodified filesystem of the guest
and assuming the kernels are compatible run them without changes. I
find this consolidation approach indispensible.
Sam.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-28 23:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-24 17:19 [RFC] Virtualization steps Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 17:33 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-24 19:25 ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-24 19:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 4:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 5:31 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-28 6:45 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 21:59 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-28 22:24 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 23:28 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 9:13 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 11:08 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 13:45 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-29 14:47 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 17:29 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-29 21:37 ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-12 8:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-13 1:05 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 6:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-13 13:42 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 21:33 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-13 22:45 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-14 7:41 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-14 9:56 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-15 19:29 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 22:51 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-04-14 10:08 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-15 19:31 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 8:52 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 9:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 14:26 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 14:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29 6:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 6:19 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 18:20 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 22:36 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 22:52 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 23:01 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 23:13 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 23:18 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 23:28 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 1:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 1:36 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 1:41 ` David Lang
2006-03-30 2:04 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 14:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 15:30 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-30 16:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 18:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 13:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 16:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-03-30 16:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 18:55 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 18:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 19:07 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31 5:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 5:51 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31 6:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 18:53 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 2:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 19:23 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31 6:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 14:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-03-31 16:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 13:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 13:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 14:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 2:24 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-30 3:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 3:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30 10:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-11 10:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-11 14:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 9:00 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 14:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 15:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 17:48 ` Jeff Dike
2006-03-28 23:07 ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2006-03-29 20:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 20:29 ` [Devel] " Jun OKAJIMA
2006-03-28 20:50 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 21:38 ` Jun OKAJIMA
2006-03-28 21:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 23:18 ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-03 16:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-11 10:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 16:20 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-11 18:12 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-04-12 5:12 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 6:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-12 6:53 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 7:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-12 17:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-13 16:54 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-04-30 13:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-30 21:34 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-01 12:27 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-05-03 20:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 9:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 15:35 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 15:53 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 16:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 21:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 16:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 23:04 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 1:39 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 13:47 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 15:48 ` [Devel] " Matt Ayres
2006-03-28 16:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 17:04 ` Matt Ayres
2006-03-29 0:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 18:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-24 21:19 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-27 18:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 8:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 12:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-28 22:51 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 20:30 ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-29 20:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 22:44 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-30 13:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
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