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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Duncan Sands <duncan.sands@math.u-psud.fr>
Cc: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] binary firmware and modules
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:41:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145374878.10255.69.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200604181659.04657.duncan.sands@math.u-psud.fr>

Hi Duncan,

> > we have two kind of devices that need firmware download. The easy and
> > clean ones which need one or two files and these basically change not
> > that often. In most cases these are the network or storage devices and
> > for exactly these we need the MODULE_FIRMWARE() support to know which
> > files have to be put into initrd.
> 
> > The messed up devices like the Speedtouch and maybe even some WiFi
> > dongles are another story.
> 
> I don't know why you consider the speedtouch to be messed up.  What's
> messed up is not the modems themselves, but the fact that we don't know
> what modems exist, and how they differ in their firmware requirements.

if you don't know the firmware requirements, then this is what I call
messed up. I now that this is basically the fault of the manufacturer or
missing specifications, but wild guessing on the firmware doesn't really
help. A kernel driver should know which firmware it needs.

> Anyway, speedtouch users also need their firmware to end up in any initrd.
> Since the driver expects all firmware files to start with "speedtch",
> the MODULE_FIRMWARE scheme would work for the speedtouch driver too as
> long as it allows the driver to specify just the initial part of a file
> name.  You could go all the way to regular expressions, but that seems
> a bit ridiculous.

I personally prefer full firmware names. This makes the dependency easy
and even an end user can call modinfo and see what firmware is expected
by a certain driver (without looking at the source code).

Regards

Marcel



  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-18 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-15  8:10 [RFC] binary firmware and modules Jon Masters
2006-04-15  9:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-04-17 14:22   ` John W. Linville
2006-04-17 14:29     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-17 14:38       ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-04-17 15:15       ` Duncan Sands
2006-04-17 16:10         ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-04-18 13:16 ` Jon Masters
2006-04-18 13:37   ` Duncan Sands
2006-04-18 14:14     ` Jon Masters
2006-04-18 15:14       ` Duncan Sands
2006-04-19  0:01         ` Jon Masters
2006-04-18 14:22     ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-04-18 14:59       ` Duncan Sands
2006-04-18 15:41         ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2006-04-19 13:28           ` Mark Lord
2006-04-19 13:37             ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-04-19 14:10               ` Jon Masters
2006-04-18 14:25   ` Marcel Holtmann

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