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From: Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Add a "enable" sysfs attribute to the pci devices to allow userspace (Xorg) to enable devices without doing foul direct access
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 17:38:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1146778720.27727.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910605041418n2105e50bs8803cd6ac8407c48@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 17:18 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: 
> On 5/4/06, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com> wrote:

> > It doesn't matter -- you can accomplish the same thing with e.g.
> > libx86emu and simply mapping the option rom to 0xc0000.  But you want to
> > do that in userland, not in the kernel.
> 
> It is much more complicated than than you describe.

I didn't really feel like explaining the parts we both already know.
I'll try to remember to do so in the future.

> Go look at the ROM code already checked in. Laptop video ROMs are not
> simple PCI devices that can be mapped around. They are stored in
> compressed form inside the system ROM and expanded at boot.

Yes, and this format is documented, too.  But right now there's no way
to get access to it with tools to actually do anything.

> If you lose the shadow copy in RAM there is no API for getting it back.

Except to enable the BAR and read it from the assigned address...

> These compressed ROMs are the source of a lot of laptop user's
> problems with suspend/resume on Linux.

Absolutely.  That's why I want a method to access them, which this
"enable" file provides.

> VGA support for multiple cards is a very complicated problem.

Please quit jumping up and down in the bicycle path telling everybody
how hard it is to ride a bike.

-- 
  Peter


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-04 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-29  8:46 Add a "enable" sysfs attribute to the pci devices to allow userspace (Xorg) to enable devices without doing foul direct access Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-29  8:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-29  8:59   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-29  9:04     ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-02 16:14       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-02 16:21         ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 16:51           ` Jesse Barnes
2006-05-04 19:09       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-04 19:11         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-04 19:26           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-04 19:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-04 20:40               ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:05                 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:17                   ` Martin Mares
2006-05-04 21:29                     ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:37                       ` Martin Mares
2006-05-04 21:38                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 23:22                         ` Peter Jones
2006-05-05 19:20                           ` Ian Romanick
2006-05-05 20:14                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 20:26                               ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 20:35                                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 20:43                                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 21:10                                     ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 21:06                                   ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 21:15                                     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 22:27                                       ` Greg KH
2006-05-06  0:05                                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06  1:57                                           ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-06  3:39                                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 12:42                                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-06 13:08                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 18:10                                                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-06 18:24                                                     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 23:16                                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07  5:56                                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-07 12:05                                                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 19:07                                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-08  0:03                                                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 13:12                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-08 14:26                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-08 14:54                                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08  4:06                                           ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-08  5:27                                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-07  8:54                                 ` Adam Belay
2006-05-14  0:29                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-14  0:56                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-14 23:57                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-15  0:14                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-14  0:57                         ` Patrick McFarland
2006-05-14  1:11                           ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:18                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:38                     ` Peter Jones [this message]
2006-05-04 21:48                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:57                         ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 22:05                           ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 19:49             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-15  2:10     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-02 16:38 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 16:45   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 16:59     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 17:00       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 17:13         ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 18:27           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 19:00             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 19:29               ` Peter Jones
2006-05-02 21:40               ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-02 21:52                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 23:36                   ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-03  0:19                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-05-03  0:26                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-03  1:24                     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-03  1:30                       ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-03  6:02                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-03 13:23                     ` Jon Smirl

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