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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, "Chen,
	Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg"
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:41:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147873294.7596.13.camel@homer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605172246.39444.kernel@kolivas.org>

On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:46 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 May 2006 21:42, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > Fair?  I said interactivity wise.  But what the heck, if we're talking
> > fairness, I can say the same thing about I/O bound tasks.  Heck, it's
> > not fair to stop any task from reaching the top, and it's certainly not
> > fair to let them have (for all practical purposes) all the cpu they want
> > once they sleep enough.
> 
> Toss out the I/O bound thing and we turn into a steaming dripping pile of dog 
> doo whenever anything does disk I/O. And damned if there aren't a lot of pcs 
> that have hard disks...

(you should have tried my patch set)

> Spits and stutters are not starvation. Luckily it gets no worse with this 
> patch.

Ok, I'll accept that.  Spits and stutters _are_ interactivity issues
though yes?.  Knowing full well that plunking long sleepers into the
queue you are plunking them into causes spits and stutters, why do you
insist on doing so?

Oh well, we're well on the way to agreeing to disagree again, so let's
just get it over with.  I hereby agree to disagree.

	Cheers,

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-17 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-08 23:18 Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Tim Chen
2006-05-09  0:43 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-09  1:07   ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-12  0:04   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-13 12:27     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-13 13:07       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-14 16:03     ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-15 19:01       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-15 23:45         ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16  1:22           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-16  1:44             ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16  4:10           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-16 23:32           ` Tim Chen
2006-05-17  4:25             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17  4:45               ` Peter Williams
2006-05-17  5:24                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17  8:23             ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17  9:49               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 10:25                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 11:42                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 12:46                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 13:41                       ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2006-05-17 15:10                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 17:21                           ` Ray Lee
2006-05-17 19:33               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18  0:35                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18  1:10                   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18  1:38                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18  5:44                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18  5:52                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18  7:04                           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18 12:59                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19  1:10                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 23:17                           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19  1:30                             ` [PATCH] sched: fix interactive ceiling code Con Kolivas
2006-05-19  2:02                               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19  9:40                               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-19 14:37                               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 16:19                                 ` tim_c_chen
2006-05-18 23:34                           ` Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19  1:07                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16  4:07         ` Mike Galbraith
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2006-05-18  4:01 Al Boldi

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