From: Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sven@mvista.com>
To: tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Yann.LEPROVOST@wavecom.fr, Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Ingo's realtime_preempt patch causes kernel oops
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 11:00:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1148493625.17131.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1148490374.5239.81.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 19:06 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 18:43 +0200, Esben Nielsen wrote:
> > I am working on patchset dealing with this problem. It still needs clean
> > up. The basic idea is to add a SA_MUSTTHREAD along with SA_NODELAY. Under
> > PREEMPT_RT all interrupthandlers, which doesn't have SA_NODELAY, will get
> > SA_MUSTTHREAD unless the driver is changed. In irq_request() it is checked
> > if the handler has SA_NODELAY and an old has SA_MUSTTHREAD and visa
> > versa.
> >
> > I have also made a lock type which can be changed from rt_mutex to
> > raw_spin_lock runtime. And I have made a system with a call-back from the
> > irq-layer to the driver so they can change their spinlocks on the fly when
> > needed.
>
> That sounds scary.
>
> If you want your handler to be SA_NODELAY then you did this for a
> reason. Simply refuse to share if the other device requests the
> interrupt without SA_NODELAY.
>
This is apparently difficult with COTS hardware in some cases.
> A real solution for that problem needs more thought and the only thing
> which comes to my mind is to have split handler functionality, which
> allows to implement real cascaded interrupts. The short first stub would
> just query, mask/ack the interrupt in the device and return the
> appropriate information, so the real handler can be invoked at any given
> time.
>
> I know it would be a large pile of hacking, but it would be a clean
> solution. OTOH it might be done gradually on a per driver base once the
> basic infrastucture is in place.
>
The problem with the per-driver approach to porting, is that this is
only possible if you have a limited (known) number of devices in your
system.
There is code which promotes any IRQ shared with SA_NODELAY to
SA_NODELAY, and at least on PCI, that is where you get cascading
collisions between the drivers that have been adapted with the ones that
have not.
Sven
> tglx
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-24 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-23 13:40 Ingo's realtime_preempt patch causes kernel oops Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-23 14:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-23 14:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-23 14:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-23 15:33 ` Daniel Walker
2006-05-23 16:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-23 16:27 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-23 17:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-23 17:10 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-23 18:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-24 8:06 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-24 12:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-24 13:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-24 15:32 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-05-24 15:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-24 16:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-24 16:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-24 16:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-24 17:09 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2006-05-24 16:06 ` Daniel Walker
2006-05-24 13:58 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-24 16:43 ` Esben Nielsen
2006-05-24 17:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-24 18:00 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich [this message]
2006-05-30 10:00 ` RT_PREEMPT problem with cascaded irqchip Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-30 10:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-30 10:26 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-30 11:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-30 14:44 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-30 23:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-05-31 8:26 ` Yann.LEPROVOST
2006-05-24 17:30 ` Ingo's realtime_preempt patch causes kernel oops Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
[not found] <OF928FB2B7.5CE25C69-ONC1257177.00596B7A-C1257177.005AAA6F@wavecom.fr>
2006-05-23 16:38 ` Daniel Walker
2006-05-23 16:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
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