From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
devmazumdar <dev@opensound.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to check if kernel sources are installed on a system?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 17:27:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1148851660.27461.23.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060528204558.GR13513@lug-owl.de>
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 22:45 +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-05-28 15:55:29 -0400, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 20:12 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > Also... why would there really be a need for such a way? Not for
> > > building anything for sure.... it's for the human. And the human seems
> > > to just find it already (and again the boot file works well in practice
> > > it seems)
> >
> > Debugging. When a new Linux user files a "no sound" ALSA bug report I
> > need to find out whether they have any known broken options enabled,
> > like USB bandwidth checking or the OSS USB midi/audio drivers. If we
> > have to go back and forth figuring out which distro they have and where
> > the config is they are that much more likely to give up and go back to
> > Windows.
>
> ...which isn't always the worst solution to the problem. If some guy
> doesn't want to jump through the loops to figure out what's actually
> broken, Windows may be a good solution for them. "World domination"
> also means "dominated by the world's problems," so I tend to go a step
> back from time to time:-)
Yes, if it were a perfect world and we had access to all the hardware
specs like Microsoft does, we would not need these users' help. But the
users have access to a lot more hardware than the developers do and
trial and error is often the only solution.
If they give up and go back to Windows we may never support their
hardware correctly.
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-28 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-25 21:19 How to check if kernel sources are installed on a system? devmazumdar
2006-05-25 21:27 ` alan
2006-05-25 21:29 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-25 22:02 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 22:15 ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-25 22:25 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 22:34 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 22:40 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 21:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-25 21:35 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 21:32 ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-25 21:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 21:39 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-25 21:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-26 14:36 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-25 21:44 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 22:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-05-26 4:23 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-26 14:37 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-26 15:01 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-05-27 10:47 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-25 21:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 22:29 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 22:39 ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-25 23:06 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-25 23:16 ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-26 0:12 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-25 23:00 ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-26 0:24 ` Måns Rullgård
2006-05-26 14:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-26 15:35 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-27 12:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-27 19:52 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-27 20:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-27 22:21 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-28 8:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 10:13 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-27 14:41 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-27 22:05 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-28 13:03 ` Heiko Carstens
2006-05-28 13:12 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-28 13:45 ` Heiko Carstens
2006-05-28 17:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 17:52 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 18:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 18:22 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-28 19:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-28 19:55 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 20:45 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-28 21:27 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2006-05-28 21:55 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-28 22:02 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 22:38 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-29 12:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-29 12:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-29 4:44 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29 4:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29 5:35 ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-29 5:46 ` David Miller
2006-05-29 5:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-29 6:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-29 6:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29 6:57 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29 7:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29 7:29 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29 7:05 ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-29 7:23 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29 7:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-29 12:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29 15:52 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-05-29 16:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 20:40 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-25 22:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-26 0:09 ` Thomas Backlund
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