From: "Sébastien Dugué" <sebastien.dugue@bull.net>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Atsushi Nemoto <anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pierre PEIFFER <pierre.peiffer@bull.net>
Subject: Re: NPTL mutex and the scheduling priority
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:24:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1150125869.3835.12.camel@frecb000686> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060612124406.GZ3115@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 08:44 -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 17:10 +0900, Atsushi Nemoto wrote:
> > > # This is a copy of message posted libc-alpha ML. I want to hear from
> > > # kernel people too ...
> > >
> > > Hi. I found that it seems NPTL's mutex does not follow the scheduling
> > > parameter. If some threads were blocked by getting a single
> > > mutex_lock, I expect that a thread with highest priority got the lock
> > > first, but current NPTL's behaviour is different.
> > \
> >
> > you want to use the PI futexes that are in 2.6.17-rc5-mm tree
>
> Even for normal mutices pthread_mutex_unlock and
> pthread_cond_{signal,broadcast} is supposed to honor the RT priority and
> scheduling policy when waking up:
> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/pthread_mutex_trylock.html
> "If there are threads blocked on the mutex object referenced by mutex when
> pthread_mutex_unlock() is called, resulting in the mutex becoming available,
> the scheduling policy shall determine which thread shall acquire the mutex."
> and similarly for condvars.
> "Use PI" is not a valid answer for this.
> Really FUTEX_WAKE/FUTEX_REQUEUE can't use a FIFO. I think there was a patch
> floating around to use a plist there instead, which is one possibility,
> another one is to keep the queue sorted by priority (and adjust whenever
> priority changes - one thread can be waiting on at most one futex at a
> time).
>
The patch you refer to is at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=114725326712391&w=2
But maybe a better solution for condvars would be to implement
something like a futex_requeue_pi() to handle the broadcast and
only use PI futexes all along in glibc.
Any ideas?
Sébastien.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-12 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-12 8:10 NPTL mutex and the scheduling priority Atsushi Nemoto
2006-06-12 12:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-12 12:44 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-12 15:24 ` Sébastien Dugué [this message]
2006-06-12 16:06 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-09-07 8:11 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-09-07 8:32 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-09-07 9:30 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-09-07 9:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-09-07 9:42 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-06-13 8:39 ` Pierre Peiffer
2006-06-13 8:48 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-13 12:04 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-06-13 12:56 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-14 13:19 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-06-14 13:28 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-14 13:38 ` Pierre Peiffer
2006-06-15 9:28 ` Pierre Peiffer
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