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From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>,
	"Chandra S. Seetharaman" <sekharan@us.ibm.com>,
	"John T. Kohl" <jtk@us.ibm.com>, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
	Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	LSE <lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] [PATCH 00/11] Task watchers:  Introduction
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:13:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1150881185.21787.980.camel@stark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060621020754.59dd42c6.akpm@osdl.org>

On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 02:07 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:35:29 -0700
> Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 03:24 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:52:01 -0700
> > > Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Task watchers is a notifier chain that sends notifications to registered
> > > > callers whenever a task forks, execs, changes its [re][ug]id, or exits.
> > > 
> > > Seems a reasonable objective - it'll certainly curtail (indeed, reverse)
> > > the ongoing proliferation of little subsystem-specific hooks all over the
> > > core code, will allow us to remove some #includes from core code and should
> > > permit some more things to be loaded as modules.
> > > 
> > > But I do wonder if it would have been better to have separate chains for
> > > each of WATCH_TASK_INIT, WATCH_TASK_EXEC, WATCH_TASK_UID, WATCH_TASK_GID,
> > > WATCH_TASK_EXIT.  That would reduce the number of elements which need to be
> > > traversed at each event and would eliminate the need for demultiplexing at
> > > each handler.
> > 
> > 	It's a good idea, and should have the advantages you cited. My only
> > concern is that each task watcher would have to (un)register multiple
> > notifier blocks. I expect that in most cases there would only be two.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > Also, if we apply this to per-task notifiers it would mean that we'd
> > have a 6 raw notifier heads per-task.
> 
> hm, that's potentially a problem.
> 
> It's a lock and a pointer.  72 bytes in the task_struct.  I guess we can
> live with that.

Happily the per-task chains are raw so each should be just a pointer
making the total 24 or 48 bytes (on 32 or 64-bit platforms
respectively).

> An alternatve would be to dynamically allocate it, but that'll hurt code
> which uses the feature, and will be fiddly.
> 
> Perhaps six struct notifier_block *'s, which share a lock?  Dunno.
> 
> > 	Would you like me to redo the patches as multiple chains?
> 
> Well, how about you see how it looks, decide whether this is worth
> pursuing.

OK. Should be interesing.

> It's hard to predict the eventual typical length of these chains.

That's understandable.

> > Alternately,
> > I could produce patches that apply on top of the current set.
> 
> It depends on how many of the existing patches are affected.  If it's just
> one or two then an increment would be fine.  If it's everything then a new
> patchset I guess.

It would affect most of them -- I'd need to change the bits that
register a notifier block. So I'll make a separate series.

Cheers,
	-Matt Helsley


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-21  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-13 23:52 [PATCH 00/11] Task watchers: Introduction Matt Helsley
2006-06-19 10:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21  8:35   ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-21  9:07     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21  9:13       ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2006-06-21 10:40         ` [Lse-tech] " Peter Williams
2006-06-21 21:32           ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-21  5:41 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-21  7:51   ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-21 11:34     ` Peter Williams
2006-06-21 11:41       ` Peter Williams
2006-06-21 21:29         ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-21 23:04           ` Peter Williams
2006-06-22  0:32             ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-22  1:11               ` Peter Williams
2006-06-22  3:46                 ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-22  4:26                   ` Peter Williams
2006-06-22  5:37                     ` [Lse-tech] " Matt Helsley
2006-06-22  6:29                       ` Peter Williams
2006-06-22 19:53                         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-22 22:46                           ` Peter Williams

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