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From: Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, patch] i386: vgetcpu(), take 2
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:55:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1150937729.6885.112.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200606220129.47546.ak@suse.de>

On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 01:29 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thursday 22 June 2006 01:18, Rohit Seth wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 01:05 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > On Thursday 22 June 2006 00:59, Rohit Seth wrote:
> > 
> > > > I was thinking of storing it is base address part of the descriptor and
> > > > then using the memory load to read it in vsyscall.  (Keeping the p bit
> > > > to zero in the descriptor).
> > > 
> > > I'm still not sure where and for what you want to use this. In user space 
> > > or in kernel space? And what information should be stored in there?
> > > 
> > 
> > Store the kernel virtual pointer in gdt to access pda in (proposed)
> > vgetcpu in vsyscall. 
> > Using this pointer we can easily reach the cpu and 
> > node numbers and any other information that is there in pda.  For the
> > cpu and node numbers this will get rid of the need to do a serializing
> > operation cpuid.
> > 
> > Does it make any sense?
> 
> Ok to spell it out (please correct me if I misinterpreted you). You want to:
> 
> - Split PDA into kernel part and user exportable part

yes.

> - Export user exportable part to ring 3

yes for vsyscall purposes.

> - Put base address of user exportable part into GDT
> - Access it using that.
> 

These are the steps that I'm proposing in vgetcpu:

Read the GDT pointer in vgetcpu code path.  This is the base of gdt
table.
Read descriptor #20 from base.  
This is the pointer to user visible part of per cpu data structure.

Please let me know if I'm missing something here.

Just a side note, in your vgetcpu patch, would it be better to return
the logical CPU number (as printed in /proc/cpuinfo).  Also, I think
applications would be interested in knowing the physical package id for
cores sharing caches.

 
> I don't think it can work because the GDT only supports 32bit
> base addresses for code/data segments in long mode and you can't put
> a kernel virtual address into 32bit (only user space there) 
> 

Really not using the GDT descriptor in terms of  loading it in any
segment register.

> And you can't get at at the base address anyways because they
> are ignored in long mode (except for fs/gs). For fs/gs you would
> need to save/restore them to reuse them which would be slow.
> 
> You can't also just put them into fs/gs because those are
> already reserved for user space.
> 

That is the reason I'm not proposing to alter existing fs/gs.

> Also I don't know what other information other than cpu/node 
> would be useful, so just using the 20 bits of limit seems plenty to me.
> 


physical id (of the package for exmpale) is another useful field.  I
would also like to see number of interrupts serviced by this cpu, page
faults  etc.  But I think that is a separate discussion.

Thanks,
-rohit


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-22  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-21  7:27 [RFC, patch] i386: vgetcpu(), take 2 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-21  8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-21 17:38   ` Artur Skawina
2006-06-28  5:44   ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-28  8:53     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-28  9:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-29  8:47         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-21  9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21  9:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-21 21:54   ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 22:21     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 22:59       ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 23:05         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 23:18           ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 23:29             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22  0:55               ` Rohit Seth [this message]
2006-06-22  8:08                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 21:06                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-22 22:14                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 23:10                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-23 12:42                         ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-06-24  2:06                           ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-24  8:42                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27  1:13                               ` Rohit Seth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-21 12:24 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-21 17:14 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 17:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-21 17:50     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 12:23 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-22 12:44 ` Andi Kleen

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