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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	arjan@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: utrace vs. ptrace
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:49:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1153853342.4725.21.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607131203450.5623@g5.osdl.org>

On Iau, 2006-07-13 at 12:05 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Doing core-dumping in user space would be insane. It doesn't give _any_ 
> advantages, only disadvantages.

It has a number of very real advantages in certain circumstances and the
only interface the kernel needs to provide is the debugger interface and
something to "kick" the debugger and reparent to it, or for that matter
it might even be viable just to pass the helper the fd of an anonymous
file holding the dump.

Taking out the kernel core dump support would be insane.

We get customers who like to collect/process/do clever stuff with core
dumps and failure cases. We also get people who want to dump a core that
excludes the 14GB shared mmap of the database file as another example
where it helps.

Alan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-25 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-13  5:43 [patch] let CONFIG_SECCOMP default to n Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13  7:04 ` utrace vs. ptrace Ingo Molnar
2006-07-13  9:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-13 12:37     ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 12:43       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-13 13:21         ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 13:28           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-13 13:34             ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 13:37               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-13 13:46                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 19:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-13 19:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-14 10:42               ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-25 18:49             ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-07-25 18:27               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-25 18:57                 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-25 19:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-26  0:20               ` Martin Bligh
2006-07-13  7:07 ` [patch] let CONFIG_SECCOMP default to n andrea

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