From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932500AbWGaBRE (ORCPT ); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:17:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932508AbWGaBRE (ORCPT ); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:17:04 -0400 Received: from pfepa.post.tele.dk ([195.41.46.235]:25533 "EHLO pfepa.post.tele.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932500AbWGaBRB (ORCPT ); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:17:01 -0400 Subject: Re: ipw3945 status From: Kasper Sandberg To: Alistair John Strachan Cc: Pavel Machek , Theodore Tso , Matthew Garrett , Jan Dittmer , Jirka Lenost Benc , kernel list , ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com In-Reply-To: <200607310123.06177.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> References: <20060730104042.GE1920@elf.ucw.cz> <20060730145305.GE23279@thunk.org> <20060730231251.GB1800@elf.ucw.cz> <200607310123.06177.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:16:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1154308614.13635.49.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 01:23 +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > On Monday 31 July 2006 00:12, Pavel Machek wrote: > [snip] > > And... Intel will not even tell you WTF that daemon does. They claim > > it is for FCC, but it seems to be doing more than that. So maybe I'm > > not _that_ paranoid. > > Agreed, from what Matthew's said it seems like the daemon is being used to > hide intellectual property, not something we should really be encouraging. > > I think the title "regulatory daemon" has multiple meanings, it REGULATES your > frequencies to FCC specs, it REGULATES your wireless card's power and > temperature levels, and it REGULATES your right to use the hardware ;-) > > Ultimately the question remains, will we open this can of worms by accepting > drivers that depend on proprietary software (i.e. they will not function at > all without it). I'm fairly sure the answer should be "No". I entirely agree that this should not be merged, those will accept these kindof things, can use intels out of tree driver. i sincerely hope for a forked/rewritten driver which does not depend on closed userspace daemons. >