From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
ajwade@cpe001346162bf9-cm0011ae8cd564.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com,
laurent.riffard@free.fr, andrew.j.wade@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kubuntu's udev broken with 2.6.18-rc2-mm1
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:14:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154344452.7230.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060730230033.cc4fc190.akpm@osdl.org>
Ar Sul, 2006-07-30 am 23:00 -0700, ysgrifennodd Andrew Morton:
> > > Are we going to stop doing this soon?
> >
> > Not if we want to keep on making things better. The real reason I made
> > these changes is to get power management working better. We need to get
> > the devices into the proper place in the sysfs tree in order to handle
> > suspend/resume for classes of devices properly. That's what Linus's
> > patch did, and now I'm moving the devices to allow it to really happen.
> >
>
> This sucks. Do you know what machines we'll be breaking out there? I
> sure don't.
Greg, this changeset should get ripped out and thrown away. Its wrong.
Its an API breakage and it is going to catch a lot of people. People
said at the kernel summit the sysfs had serious problems because of the
structure it exposes and you said you could use symlinks and the like to
work around it, or fix the code.
How about proving it or doing the work to make it possible rather than
continuing to break everything repeatedly.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-31 10:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-27 8:56 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH] Require mmap handler for a.out executables (was Re: 2.6.18-rc2-mm1) Eugene Teo
2006-07-27 11:40 ` [patch -mm] s390: remove s390 touch_nmi_watchdog() define Heiko Carstens
2006-07-27 12:26 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-27 12:39 ` [patch] fix "efi_init_e820_map undefined" warning Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-27 13:12 ` Should cpuset ABBA deadlock fix be in 2.6.18-rc2-mmx? Paul Jackson
2006-07-27 18:22 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27 19:32 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-27 13:32 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-27 18:59 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-29 12:15 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-29 12:17 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-28 8:17 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-28 8:34 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-07-28 18:49 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Matt Helsley
2006-07-28 19:53 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-28 20:39 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Matt Helsley
2006-07-28 21:34 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-07-29 2:04 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-29 22:34 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-29 23:38 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-28 17:57 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Matt Helsley
2006-07-27 14:04 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2006-07-27 14:48 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2006-07-27 15:37 ` [PATCH] highmem: fixed ip27-memory.c build error Yoichi Yuasa
2006-07-27 18:16 ` [-mm patch] arch/i386/pci/mmconfig.c: fixes Adrian Bunk
2006-07-28 8:09 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Reuben Farrelly
2006-07-28 8:35 ` [mm-patch] bluetooth: use GFP_ATOMIC in *_sock_create's sk_alloc Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 9:00 ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-07-28 12:36 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 9:17 ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-07-28 12:32 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 13:12 ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-07-28 16:15 ` [01/04 mm-patch, rfc] Add lightweight rwlock (was Re: [mm-patch] bluetooth: use GFP_ATOMIC in *_sock_create's sk_alloc) Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 16:23 ` [02/04 " Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 16:28 ` [03/04 mm-patch, rfc] Add lightweight rwlock to net/dccp/ccid.c " Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 16:33 ` [04/04 mm-patch, rfc] Add lightweight rwlock to net/bluetooth/af_bluetooth.c " Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-31 7:06 ` [01/04 mm-patch, rfc] Add lightweight rwlock Masatake YAMATO
2006-08-01 9:06 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-07-28 8:56 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-07-28 9:23 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-07-28 15:53 ` [PATCH] 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 i386 add_memory_region undefined Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-28 18:20 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 - hard lockups on Dell C840 Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-28 18:44 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 timer int 0 doesn't work Paul Fulghum
2006-07-28 21:48 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-28 22:10 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-28 23:38 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-29 0:15 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-29 1:16 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-29 1:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-29 2:37 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-29 2:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-29 4:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-30 23:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-29 2:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-29 15:33 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-29 19:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-29 22:05 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-31 5:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-31 13:32 ` Paul Fulghum
2006-07-28 19:46 ` Kubuntu's udev broken with 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andrew James Wade
2006-07-27 19:56 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27 20:12 ` Greg KH
2006-07-28 14:33 ` Andrew James Wade
2006-07-30 14:01 ` Laurent Riffard
2006-07-31 0:03 ` Greg KH
2006-07-31 2:27 ` Andrew James Wade
2006-07-31 3:37 ` Greg KH
2006-07-31 4:22 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-31 4:35 ` Greg KH
2006-07-31 4:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-31 5:15 ` Greg KH
2006-07-31 6:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-31 7:54 ` bert hubert
2006-07-31 8:30 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-07-31 11:14 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-07-31 8:10 ` Laurent Riffard
2006-08-01 3:01 ` Andrew James Wade
2006-07-27 21:28 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-29 17:48 ` [-mm patch] security/selinux/hooks.c: make 4 functions static Adrian Bunk
2006-07-30 0:37 ` James Morris
2006-07-29 17:58 ` swsusp regression (s2dsk) [Was: 2.6.18-rc2-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2006-07-29 18:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-29 23:06 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-07-29 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-29 23:59 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-07-30 0:03 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-07-29 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-29 23:58 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-07-30 0:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 7:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-30 8:08 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-07-30 9:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-30 10:54 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-07-30 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 11:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-31 13:59 ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-07-31 14:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-30 11:36 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-07-30 11:35 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 fails to reboot properly on Dell Latitude CPiA Christian Trefzer
2006-07-31 4:42 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Reuben Farrelly
2006-07-31 4:57 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-07-31 5:25 ` 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Andi Kleen
2006-08-03 15:59 ` [2.6 patch] DVB_CORE must select I2C Adrian Bunk
2006-08-03 16:10 ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Manu Abraham
2006-08-03 16:30 ` Trent Piepho
2006-08-03 19:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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