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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC - how to balance Dirty+Writeback in the face of slow writeback.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:18:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155831532.5620.12.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060817083035.8b775b12.akpm@osdl.org>

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 08:30 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:21:51 -0400
> Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> > Exactly how would a request limit help? All that boils down to is having
> > the VM monitor global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY) versus monitoring
> > global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY)+global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK).
> > 
> 
> I assume that if NFS is not limiting its NR_WRITEBACK consumption and block
> devices are doing so, we could get in a situation where NFS hogs all of the
> fixed-size NR_DIRTY+NR_WRITEBACK resource at the expense of concurrent
> block-device-based writeback.

Since NFS has no control over NR_DIRTY, how does controlling
NR_WRITEBACK help? The only resource that NFS shares with the block
device writeout queues is memory.

IOW: The resource that needs to be controlled is the dirty pages, not
the write-out queue. Unless you can throttle back on the creation of
dirty NFS pages in the first place, then the potential for unfairness
will exist.

Trond


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-17 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-14 23:40 RFC - how to balance Dirty+Writeback in the face of slow writeback Neil Brown
2006-08-15  8:06 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 23:00   ` David Chinner
2006-08-17  4:08     ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17  6:14       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 12:36         ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-17 15:14           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 16:22             ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-18  5:49               ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 10:43                 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-08-18  0:11         ` David Chinner
2006-08-18  6:29           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18  7:03             ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-18  7:11               ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 18:57               ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21  0:35                 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-21  3:15                   ` David Chinner
2006-08-21  7:24                     ` Neil Brown
2006-08-21 13:51                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-25  4:36                         ` Neil Brown
2006-08-25  6:37                           ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-28  1:28                             ` David Chinner
2006-08-25 13:16                           ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-27  8:21                             ` Neil Brown
2006-08-21 14:28                       ` David Chinner
2006-08-25  5:24                         ` Neil Brown
2006-08-28  1:55                           ` David Chinner
2006-08-21  7:47                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18  7:07             ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17 22:17       ` David Chinner
2006-08-17  3:59   ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17  6:22     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17  8:36       ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-17 13:21     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-17 15:30       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 16:18         ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2006-08-18  5:34           ` Andrew Morton

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