From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:39:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155929992.26155.60.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44E33893.6020700@sw.ru>
Kirill,
Here are some concerns I have (as of now) w.r.t using UBC for resource
management (in the context of resource groups).
- guarantee support is missing. I do not see any code to provide the
minimum amount of resource a group can get. It is important for
providing QoS. (In a different email you did mention guarantee, i am
referring it here for completeness).
- Creation of a UBC and assignment of task to a UBC always happen in
the context of the task that is affected. I can understand it works in
OpenVZ environment, but IMO has issues if one wants it to be used for
basic resource management
- application needs to be changed to use this feature.
- System administrator does not have the control to assign tasks to a
UBC. Application does by itself.
- Assignment of task to a UBC need to be transparent to the
application.
- UBC is deleted when the last task (in that UBC) exits. For resource
management purposes, UBC should be deleted only when the administrator
deletes it.
- No ability to set resource specific configuration information.
- No ability to maintain resource specific data in the controller.
- No ability to get the list of tasks belonging to a UBC.
- Doesn't inform the resource controllers when limits(shares) change.
- Doesn't inform the resource controllers when a task's UBC has changed.
- Doesn't recalculate the resource usage when a task's UBC has changed.
i.e doesn't uncharge the old UBC and charge new UBC.
- For a system administrator name for identification of a UBC is
better than a number (uid).
regards,
chandra
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 19:24 +0400, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
> The following patch set presents base of
> User Resource Beancounters (UBC).
> UBC allows to account and control consumption
> of kernel resources used by group of processes.
>
> The full UBC patch set allows to control:
> - kernel memory. All the kernel objects allocatable
> on user demand should be accounted and limited
> for DoS protection.
> E.g. page tables, task structs, vmas etc.
>
> - virtual memory pages. UBC allows to
> limit a container to some amount of memory and
> introduces 2-level OOM killer taking into account
> container's consumption.
> pages shared between containers are correctly
> charged as fractions (tunable).
>
> - network buffers. These includes TCP/IP rcv/snd
> buffers, dgram snd buffers, unix, netlinks and
> other buffers.
>
> - minor resources accounted/limited by number:
> tasks, files, flocks, ptys, siginfo, pinned dcache
> mem, sockets, iptentries (for containers with
> virtualized networking)
>
> As the first step we want to propose for discussion
> the most complicated parts of resource management:
> kernel memory and virtual memory.
> The patch set to be sent provides core for UBC and
> management of kernel memory only. Virtual memory
> management will be sent in a couple of days.
>
> The patches in these series are:
> diff-ubc-kconfig.patch:
> Adds kernel/ub/Kconfig file with UBC options and
> includes it into arch Kconfigs
>
> diff-ubc-core.patch:
> Contains core functionality and interfaces of UBC:
> find/create beancounter, initialization,
> charge/uncharge of resource, core objects' declarations.
>
> diff-ubc-task.patch:
> Contains code responsible for setting UB on task,
> it's inheriting and setting host context in interrupts.
>
> Task contains three beancounters:
> 1. exec_ub - current context. all resources are charged
> to this beancounter.
> 2. task_ub - beancounter to which task_struct is charged
> itself.
> 3. fork_sub - beancounter which is inherited by
> task's children on fork
>
> diff-ubc-syscalls.patch:
> Patch adds system calls for UB management:
> 1. sys_getluid - get current UB id
> 2. sys_setluid - changes exec_ and fork_ UBs on current
> 3. sys_setublimit - set limits for resources consumtions
>
> diff-ubc-kmem-core.patch:
> Introduces UB_KMEMSIZE resource which accounts kernel
> objects allocated by task's request.
>
> Objects are accounted via struct page and slab objects.
> For the latter ones each slab contains a set of pointers
> corresponding object is charged to.
>
> Allocation charge rules:
> 1. Pages - if allocation is performed with __GFP_UBC flag - page
> is charged to current's exec_ub.
> 2. Slabs - kmem_cache may be created with SLAB_UBC flag - in this
> case each allocation is charged. Caches used by kmalloc are
> created with SLAB_UBC | SLAB_UBC_NOCHARGE flags. In this case
> only __GFP_UBC allocations are charged.
>
> diff-ubc-kmem-charge.patch:
> Adds SLAB_UBC and __GFP_UBC flags in appropriate places
> to cause charging/limiting of specified resources.
>
> diff-ubc-proc.patch:
> Adds two proc entries user_beancounters and user_beancounters_sub
> allowing to see current state (usage/limits/fails for each UB).
> Implemented via seq files.
>
> Patch set is applicable to 2.6.18-rc4-mm1
>
> Thanks,
> Kirill
>
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Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-16 15:24 [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] UBC: kconfig Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 19:57 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 21:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-25 15:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-16 15:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] UBC: core (structures, API) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:58 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:42 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 17:15 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 11:45 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 12:14 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 14:32 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 12:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:11 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 11:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 11:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 11:14 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 17:51 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 5:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 7:35 ` [PATCH " Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-18 8:26 ` [ckrm-tech] " Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 15:59 ` [RFC][PATCH " Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 14:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 18:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 1:58 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:38 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-21 11:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 12:23 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-22 12:46 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 14:38 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-21 17:35 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-20 4:58 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-20 5:01 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-16 15:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] UBC: ub context and inheritance Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 13:21 ` [Devel] " Pavel V. Emelianov
2006-08-18 2:42 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 9:23 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:19 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 20:03 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 10:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 20:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] UBC: syscalls (user interface) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 17:17 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 12:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:17 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 19:22 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 12:13 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 15:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 8:08 ` [PATCH " Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-18 14:45 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 16:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 17:29 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 17:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 17:59 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-21 2:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-18 18:09 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 18:17 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 18:27 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 18:56 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 19:16 ` Chris Friesen
2006-08-18 21:19 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 19:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 21:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 2:38 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 7:48 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 8:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 9:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 9:18 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 13:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 17:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 8:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 2:47 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 1:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 3:58 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 18:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 1:20 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 11:05 ` [RFC][PATCH " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:08 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 12:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:05 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 14:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-18 2:31 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:45 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:43 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-18 20:13 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] UBC: kernel memory accounting (core) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:56 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:47 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:24 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 13:27 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 14:38 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 9:31 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:58 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 10:40 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 15:10 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 15:06 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 12:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:02 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 9:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 16:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-21 10:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 1:23 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 18:47 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-16 19:15 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:59 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 14:26 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 15:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 16:04 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18 10:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 15:19 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-17 17:28 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-17 17:49 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 17:06 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:23 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 17:36 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:53 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:52 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 17:38 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-21 11:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 1:48 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 7:43 ` Pavel V. Emelianov
2006-08-18 8:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 8:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 19:32 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 9:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:42 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 16:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 0:22 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 16:36 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 8:44 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 13:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:13 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 8:49 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 13:31 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 14:36 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:12 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 8:57 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 20:26 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 10:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 20:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] UBC: kernel memory acconting (mark objects) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 15:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] UBC: proc interface Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 17:13 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 13:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 15:40 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 16:12 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-08-16 18:53 ` [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:26 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 0:15 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-17 11:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 13:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 19:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 10:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 18:53 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 22:55 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-21 10:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 21:04 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 19:39 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2006-08-21 13:24 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 21:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 22:44 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-22 1:45 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 10:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 9:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 1:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 18:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 1:44 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-24 2:04 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 11:10 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 23:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 23:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-25 18:21 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 20:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 21:37 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 22:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 22:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 17:27 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-24 23:52 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 11:12 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-25 18:47 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 22:23 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 23:00 ` Chandra Seetharaman
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