From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <sergeh@us.ibm.com>
Cc: kjhall@us.ibm.com, Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM ML <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
David Safford <safford@us.ibm.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] SLIM main patch
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:15:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1156428917.3007.150.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060824133248.GC15680@sergelap.austin.ibm.com>
Ar Iau, 2006-08-24 am 08:32 -0500, ysgrifennodd Serge E. Hallyn:
> > You also have to deal with existing mmap() mappings and outstanding I/O.
>
> That she does.
I don't believe so from the patches.
> > SysV shared memory
>
> standard mmap controls should handle this, right?
No its rather independant of mmap
> > mmap
>
> She handles these.
I must have missed where it handles that.
> thread #2 is reading data from a pipe which is at a secret level, so how
> will it exploit that? It can't write it to a lower integrity file...
Ok my example isn't quite right - I can create the pipes and do the
blocking in other patterns to get the result I mean. The problem is that
I can be blocked in a driver write() method before you raise the
security level and no change at the VFS level will be early enough to
stop it.
Another example would be
Type ^S
thread #1
write(console, padding, internalbuffersize);
write(console, secret_buffer, data) [blocks]
thread #2
sleep to be sure #1 is blocked
open secret file
read(secret, secret_buffer, data);
Type ^Q
By the time you raise the security level due to the action of thread #2
I'm already blocked in tty_do_write() and have passed any vfs checks.
> The revoke(2) isn't quite right semantically, because it would revoke
> all users' access, right? Rather, we want one process' rights to all
> files revoked, but other read/writers should still have access.
The core is the same, the question of specifically what you revoke is
different.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-24 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-23 19:05 [PATCH 3/7] SLIM main patch Kylene Jo Hall
2006-08-23 19:27 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-23 20:35 ` Kylene Jo Hall
2006-08-23 20:41 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-23 22:20 ` Kylene Jo Hall
2006-08-24 8:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 11:26 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 13:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-24 13:37 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-24 13:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-24 14:00 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-24 14:16 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-24 14:15 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-08-24 15:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-24 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 17:34 ` David Safford
2006-08-24 19:16 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-24 20:21 ` David Safford
2006-08-24 20:41 ` Mimi Zohar
2006-08-24 22:13 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-12 17:57 Kylene Jo Hall
2006-09-14 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-15 16:57 ` Kylene Jo Hall
2006-09-26 18:44 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-19 20:48 ` Kylene Jo Hall
2006-10-20 15:32 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-20 17:58 ` Stephen Smalley
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