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From: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] dubious process system time.
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:02:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1156435363.28464.33.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608241718.29406.ak@suse.de>

On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 17:18 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > At the moment hardirq+softirq is just added to a random process, in
> > general this is completely wrong. 
> 
> It's better than not accounting it at all.

I think it is worse than not accounting it. You are "charging" a process
of some user for something that the user has nothing to do with.

> > You just need a system with a cpu hog 
> > and an i/o bound process and you get queer results.
> 
> Yes, but system load that is invisible to standard monitoring
> tools is even worse.

But it isn't invisible. cpustat->hardirq and cpustate->softirq will be
increased. /proc/stat will show the system time spent in these two
contexts.

> If you stop accounting it to random processes you have to 
> account it somewhere else. Preferably somewhere that standard tools
> automatically pick up.

Again, why do I have to account non-process related time to a process?
Ihmo that is completly wrong.

-- 
blue skies,
  Martin.

Martin Schwidefsky
Linux for zSeries Development & Services
IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-24 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24 12:18 [patch] dubious process system time Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-24 12:32 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-24 13:28   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-24 15:18     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-24 16:02       ` Martin Schwidefsky [this message]
2006-08-25 10:12         ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-25 10:29           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-25 12:58             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-24 23:40 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-25  8:18   ` Martin Schwidefsky

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