From: Shaya Potter <spotter@cs.columbia.edu>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Josef Sipek <jsipek@cs.sunysb.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, viro@ftp.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/22][RFC] Unionfs: Stackable Namespace Unification Filesystem
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:02:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1157461359.23523.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609050759360.17126@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 08:02 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >
> >I agree that unionfs shouldn't oops, it should handle that situation in
> >a more graceful manner, but once the "backing store" is modified
> >underneath it, all bets are off for either unionfs or ext2/3 behaving
> >"correctly" (where "correctly" doesn't just mean handle the error
> >gracefully).
> >
> >But are you also 100% sure that messing with the underlying backing
> >store wouldn't be considered an admin bug as opposed to an administrator
> >bug? I mean there's nothing that we can do to prevent an administrator
> >from FUBAR'ing their system by
> >
> >dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/kmem.
> >
> >where does one draw the line? I agree that stackable file systems make
> >this a more pressing issue, as the "backing store" can be visible within
> >the file system namespace as a regular file system that people are
> >generally accustomed to interacting with.
>
> So here's an idea. When a branch is added, mount an empty space onto the
> branch. (From within the kernel, so it appears as a side-effect of mount(2))
>
> mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/a=rw:/b=ro none /union
>
> should imply something like
>
> mount --bind /var/lib/empty /a
> mount --bind /var/lib/empty /b
>
> Or better, yet, make them read-only:
>
> mount --rbind -o ro /a /a
> mount --rbind -o ro /b /b
> (hope this works as intended?)
>
> So that no one can tinker with /a and /b while the union is mounted.
I thought about that, but that doesn't help you w/ the NFS as branch
case.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-05 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-01 1:35 [PATCH 00/22][RFC] Unionfs: Stackable Namespace Unification Filesystem Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 1:37 ` [PATCH 01/22][RFC] Unionfs: Documentation Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 7:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:39 ` [PATCH 02/22][RFC] Unionfs: Kconfig and Makefile Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 12:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 15:32 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-01 1:40 ` [PATCH 03/22][RFC] Unionfs: Branch management functionality Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 11:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-09-01 1:41 ` [PATCH 04/22][RFC] Unionfs: Common file operations Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 12:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 22:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-09-01 22:36 ` Shaya Potter
2006-09-01 22:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-09-03 1:03 ` Shaya Potter
2006-09-02 2:47 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-03 4:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-09-01 1:42 ` [PATCH 05/22][RFC] Unionfs: Copyup Functionality Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 6:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-04 9:25 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 10:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-16 22:13 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-16 22:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-17 1:28 ` Shaya Potter
2006-09-01 1:44 ` [PATCH 06/22][RFC] Unionfs: Dentry operations Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:45 ` [PATCH 07/22][RFC] Unionfs: Directory file operations Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:07 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:47 ` [PATCH 08/22][RFC] Unionfs: Directory manipulation helper functions Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-04 7:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-01 1:48 ` [PATCH 09/22][RFC] Unionfs: File operations Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 3:02 ` Ian Kent
2006-09-04 7:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:49 ` [PATCH 10/22][RFC] Unionfs: Inode operations Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:50 ` [PATCH 11/22][RFC] Unionfs: Lookup helper functions Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:51 ` [PATCH 12/22][RFC] Unionfs: Main module functions Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:53 ` [PATCH 00/22][RFC] Unionfs: Stackable Namespace Unification Filesystem Stephen Rothwell
2006-09-01 17:23 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-03 17:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-03 19:44 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 11:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-09-04 23:34 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 1:53 ` [PATCH 13/22][RFC] Unionfs: Readdir state Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:54 ` [PATCH 14/22][RFC] Unionfs: Rename Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 1:55 ` [PATCH 15/22][RFC] Unionfs: Privileged operations workqueue Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:37 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:56 ` [PATCH 16/22][RFC] Unionfs: Handling of stale inodes Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 1:58 ` [PATCH 17/22][RFC] Unionfs: Miscellaneous helper functions Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 1:58 ` [PATCH 18/22][RFC] Unionfs: Superblock operations Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-04 8:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-09-01 1:59 ` [PATCH 19/22][RFC] Unionfs: Helper macros/inlines Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 2:01 ` [PATCH 20/22][RFC] Unionfs: Internal include file Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-01 2:01 ` [PATCH 21/22][RFC] Unionfs: Unlink Josef Sipek
2006-09-01 2:02 ` [PATCH 22/22][RFC] Unionfs: Include file Josef Sipek
2006-09-04 7:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-03 11:05 ` [PATCH 00/22][RFC] Unionfs: Stackable Namespace Unification Filesystem Pavel Machek
2006-09-04 12:57 ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-05 4:46 ` Al Boldi
2006-09-05 7:01 ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-04 13:28 ` Shaya Potter
2006-09-04 20:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-04 21:43 ` Shaya Potter
2006-09-04 23:31 ` Josef Sipek
2006-09-05 6:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-05 13:02 ` Shaya Potter [this message]
2006-09-05 3:08 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-09-05 3:28 ` Shaya Potter
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